another beginner superdrol log

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I've been keeping a log. Figured I should post it. I was going to go two weeks, but I think I'm going to keep it up for another week or two and do a serious PCT instead of my original 2 weeks on 2 weeks off plan.

Here it is (feedback appreciated):

Superdrol log:

Subject, start:
185lb (175lb before xmas time, if you can imagine it -yes, it's almost
all fat)
waist 34.5" (a full inch and a half lard put on since Xmas!),
chest relaxed, 43.5, flexed, 46.5
neck 16"
shoulders 52.5" relaxed, 55" flexed
jops 41"
thighs 26"
arms 15"

other supps taken:
creatine
protein powder (egg + whey)
vitamins
piracetam in morning
cal+mag+zinc before going to sleep

32 years old

~16% bodyfat (hand held electro meter thingee; probably about right from
skin folds)

Weights experience: started upon turning 29; about two years and 4
months total experience. Above average athleticism before hand. I was never really a jock, but I was
never totally sedentary either.

Sample impressive lifts from the logbook:
405 single deadlift
405 single, 355x20reps back squat
345x4reps front squat
210lb single, 195x4reps power clean
165lb Behind neck press
655lb rack lift

Lifting philosophy:
I tend to do lots of heavy sets of low reps or singles in most exercises
with long rests in between sets.
Things like single hand snatches or breathing squats, and most recently,
the breathing deadlift, I will do for higher reps. I get strong with both
methods, but they're for different purposes. I try to have a little of
both in every workout. I don't like doing huge amounts of volume, as that
is for you bodybuilding type fellows. Plus, when I do such things, I tend
to get injured (german volume style training on weighted dips fried my
rotators; live and learn). I do like to train often, and have no ill
effects from it, other than getting stronger quicker. I might do a
workout like this two to three times a week, with active recovery days of
doing snatches or handstand push ups or something:

3x5reps squat warmup
20 rep squat with heavy weight
20 rep squat with lighter weight

5x5 bench press
5x5 power clean, or rack lockouts or a 20rep deadlift depending on mood
snatch + press + snatch each side, with 1DB 40lbs working my way up the rack
to 95 or 100lbs.

I'm doing this for strength and health. I am not a bodybuilder: no
offense to those who do it, but I don't want to look like an erect penis;
that will make my johnson look that much smaller. I am not a
powerlifter or an olympic lifter -though I am closer to this than to a
bodybuilder; I don't want to participate in a sport that pushes the human
body beyond its design limits and end up with ****ed up joints and stuff
in my old age. My present bench workout is 4-5 reps, 3-5 sets
with 100lb DBs (with two sets of light DB warmups).

I just started a powerlifting cycle in the new year; all my weights are at
the low end of the scale and will be slowly ramped up over the next 4 months.

Androgen experience;
1) nasal/sublingual cyclo 4-AD. Did one serious cycle; two weeks on (4-6
squirts of the homebrew cyclodiol recipe, or some sublingual as
convenient, every 1.5 to 2 hours in the daytime), two weeks off (a squirt
or two in the morning to wake me up, and tribulus), for 3 months in a
row (3 2 week on cycles, and 3 2 week PCT cycles). Started another
"metacycle" one month later: I should have waited longer, as I
experienced unpleasant side effects after 10 days (which clomid
rapidly fixed). This was after my first 6 months of lifting & allowed for
"beginner gains" to continue for quite a while longer than normal. It was
a good program; I got it from Par Deus or one of them guys. The idea is,
the **** is REALLY short acting (as in, an hour and a half), and you only
use during the day, so it's much less supressive than, say, transdermal,
or something long lasting like a cypionate. Taking the little bit in the
morning to get you going is likely to counter any supression from the
"on" time, and may even have a tonic effect on the pituitary. The stuff
worked plenty good for what I was looking for, which was to train
longer and more agressively, and have quicker recovery times. I realize
this sort of thing is not popular with american bodybuilders, but I like
it. It suits me well; it seems to have an overall "tonic" effect, rather
than 6 weeks of feeling like COnan the barbarian, and 8 weeks of feeling
like his ***** lying in a puddle of come, cigarette butts and booze.

2) 1-AD oral + sublingual 1-T. I didn't even make it through the first
week. The **** immediately shut my testicles off and made me into a
*****. My strength literally plummeted (100lb loss on the squat!) and my
body felt as if it had been beat up with a meat tenderizer until I
stopped taking it. Amazingly, I started this stuff up after a really
radical diet during which time I actually gained strength while losing weight, despite having zero
carbs in my body. The 1-AD and 1-T felt FAR worse than the diet was. On
the other hand, I continued to lose weight, and even gained a little lean
mass after the diet; possibly attributable to the 1-AD. Or maybe the
clomid I took afterwords. BTW, it took a week or two for the clomid to
repair the damage to my endocrine system. I still have the rest of that
1-AD + 1-T **** on my shelf (I'm an imaginary man, so it's not illegal). It
would be hard to convince me to use it again. Sides? SIDES?!?! I don't
like feeling like a *****. I don't care if it made me look better.
Hearing Methyl 1-T is actually harder on your meatsack makes me laff; you
have to be nuts to take something that makes you feel that way.

superdrol Plan:
I plan on doing a 2 week on thing, then coming off. Then we'll see what
happens. If I feel really supressed and shitty, I'll wait a month or so.
If I feel OK, I'll go on again in another 2 weeks and possibly repeat
once more, or try continuing for 3 or more weeks for a longer cycle. I'll
probably stick with 10mg/day, as that seems pretty potent thus far. I'll
be taking it no later than noon. Since I have more or less
pink receptors, this will keep 'em pink, and assuming the half life is
like other oral methyls (like, say, dbols or anadrol or whatever =that
way it won't effect my sleepytime LH levels and such). Plus,
this is for a tonic effect on my system, not for h000ge gains in size or
strength.

Nutrition:
I eat pretty good; about3- 5kcal + 200-400g's protein a day. Not super
clean, mind you, but it gets the job done. Usually, some whey + oats for
breakfast. Whatever I can get for lunch (sandwich or salad), some nuts
and a protein bar as a snack, a big shake after workout, and a pound of
meat on a big salad for supper, with possibly another shake as a late
night snack. Punctuted with fast food a couple times a week.

workout plan:
Basically, I'm gonna keep on doing what I am doing and up the volume.
I plan on upping my squats (I took a month and a half off due to knee
issues -not an injury, just a form and stretching defect) to previous
levels, slowly. I'll take the reps up to 20 in the next couple of
workouts and go up in weight from there, while keeping the form frosty
cold. I'll probably stick with my 100lb DBs for benching and up the reps for
man teat growth. For cleans, I'll do more, rather than heavier, and leverage
this to get heavier later.
For 1-hand snatch+presses, I have the goal of working my way up to 120lb
DBs (I'm at 100lb now). If I do high rep D/L's, I'll do more sets. I'll
also be doing more active recovery if possible. The idea is to up my
overall work load and associated health using the drug as a systemic
stimulant.

The start:
Jan 18
I was feeling like warmed over dogshit this afternoon. Like I was
coming down with the flu. Figured I'd try this stuff out, as it looks like it
would be good for the white blood cells. Took it with lunch. By 3 in the
afternoon, I felt like hurling large pieces of metal around.
Grrrrrrrrrr. This stuff has a better twitch to it than cyclodiol by a
long mutha****in shot. I can't even imagine what something like
trenbelone is like. It's good for my work concentration as well.

In the gym:
I've been experiencing difficulties lately; between the holiday and
flirtation with a flu bug, I had a hard time doing heavy sets this
weekend (I'm also slightly overtrained). This is another reason for a
chemical kick in the pants. Today I did an excellent workout compared to
recent ones:
squat barx5, barx5, 135x5, 135x5, 225x5, 275x5, 295x5, 315x5
alternated pull overs 25lbx10x20x20x20
DB bench 50x5, 50x5, 100x4, 100x4, 100x3, 100x4, 100x2
snatch + press + snatch 40lb DB through 100lb DB in 5lb increments.
rack lifts, strich hand & thigh: 405x5, 455x2, 505x1

Jan 19:
I'm sore. Duh. Didn't sleep enough last night. It wasn't the SD, or the
training -it was some nasty chinese I had for lunch. Don't feel quite as
tweaked as I did yesterday. Probably ~5 hours total sleep last night. Ew.
Lower back is a bit sore in an odd way. Perhaps this is the "back pump"
people spoke of. Perhaps I just worked out too much.

Jan 20:
Didn't notice the stuff when I took it this morning. I feel a little
tweaked overall though. About 7 hours sleep last night. Total sleep
deficit of 4 hours; not the best situation to be in. Hungry all friggin
day. Had one of them carb drinks in the gym; something I almost never do.
Workout:
back Squats: barx5, barx5, 135x5, 225x5, 295x5, 315x5, 325x5
alternated pull overs, 25lb x10, 20, 20, 20
curls (I never do these, but, well, I'm juicin!): 60x10, 80x5, 80x5
cleans 135x5, 155x4 -out of gas.
Felt like I could have kept squatting, but I was pretty well out of gas
from the other stuff. Next time I squat I'll try a set of 20. Next time I
work out (probably tomorrow), I'll bench and pull. As usual with this
sort of thing, the soreness in hips and legs went away with the workout.
Get this; I'm up 4 friggin pounds. BF% is the same. Maybe the creatine
did it (I started creatine on Jan 3). Maybe it's water. If I gain a pound
a day on this ****, it would be outrageous. Though I recall early testers
gaining a couple lbs in the first few days and shedding them later.

Jan 21:
Did benching and some curls today; unbelievable pumps! Still on a
measeley 10mg, but I'm feeling it with the past two nights of acceptable
sleep and nutirtion. I feel like a walking priapism. My penis *is* a
walking priapism. Seriously, parts of my anatomy I didn't really work
yesterday are STILL pumped. The pumps make it hard to complete my sets; I
suspect my ordinary training is the "anti-pump" workout, which is why I
don't usually gain muscle mass. Presently up to 192lbs. 7lbs weight gain
thus far -mere days!. Bodyfat is about the same. I feel like I could work
out all goddamned night.
Tomorrow's workout will be homeric.
Todays Workout:
DB bench: 50x5, 50x5, 100x5, 100x3, 100x4, 65x5, 65x5
curls: 70x8, 70x8, 70x8

Jan 22:
OK, so I didn't work out today.
I felt I could have, but it got rather late before I got to it.
I still feel kind of pumped. I'm not used to feeling pumped ever. This
stuff makes me pumped. Veins all over my shoulders...


Been feeling REALLY aggro all weekend. Also, I get tired easy. Weight is
down a pound today. Bodyfat probably about the same. Will probably squat
and bench tomorrow.

Jan 24:
OK, that was probably dumb. 20mg today. Taken in the morning and at lunch.
Felt high blood pressurey and aggro. Like my IQ went down 20 points.

Oddly, I am down to 186 or so again at about the same bodyfat ratio as
previously. Presumably this is due to loss of water. Or it could be the
KB effect I have noticed before. My workout today should have been better
but my lower back was feeling a bit off. Testing it for stretch tells me
it was a bit overstressed.
Workout: Back squats: bar x 5, 135x5, 225x5, 315x5, 325x5, 335x3
pull overs 25lbs x 20, 20
DB bench press 45x5, 45x5, 100x5, 100x5, 100x4

Felt like I could have done more if my back was better. Next time,
perhaps some curls and rows.

Probably go back to 10mg tomorrow.
Sides: besides the aggro-ness and subjective high BP feeling; my nuts don't
feel as big as usual, but this might be psychosomatic. Still a walking
priapism, both in the "damn, I be pumped up" category, and the, my penis
won't turn off category. A bit headachey. Got to start thinking about
when to cycle in the clomid I suppose.

People's reported strength gains, really, seem overblown. Either that, or
I have a naturally high DHT level or something. My actual strength is
about where I expect it to be on my present cycle of strength training
w/o androgens. Though admittedly, I was off track until I started taking
the stuff.

Jan 25
Still have the "too much" feeling a bit.
Rows 60x6 80x5 100x5 105x4 110x4 110x4
curls 65x10 8x8 85x6

Jan 26
STILL feeling mighty mighty. Was a bit tired during the day. Felt I might
even skip squats in the gym. Once I got there I was all kinds of fired up.
squats barx5 135x5 225x5 315x5 525x5 335x5
pull over x25lb 5, 10, 15, 20 ,20, 20; 15 (w/deads)
DB bench: 50x5 45x5 100x4, 100x5 100x6
deadlifts: 135x5 285x5 185x20


back to 190lbs.

Jan 27
day off from the gym. Had two drinks and an asian girl.

Jan 28
Back squat barx5, 135x5, 225x5
23lb pull over 10,15
DB bench 40x5, 40x5, 100x5, 100x6, 100x5
DB rows 40x5, 40x4, 100x5, 110x5, 110x4
Not up to snuff on the squats.

Jan 29
day off

Jan 30
KB workout;
Press: 54x5, 72x5, 88x2, 54x9, 72x6m 88x3, 54x5, 72x5

Jan 31
squats barx5, 135x5, 225x5, 325x5, 335x5, 275x15
25lb pull overs 20, 20, 20
DB bench: 45x5, 45x5, 100x5, 100x5, 100x5
windmill 40x5, 40x5, 40x5 (each side)
cleans 135x5 155x5 165x5
Felt tweaked at lunch.

Feb 1
Whoa; 20 reps really kick mine arse. Day off.

Feb 2
squats barx5 135x5 225x5 275x15 185x15
25lb pull overs, 15, 20, 20
DB Bench press 45x5 45x5 100x5 100x5 100x5 105x3 105x1
DB row 45x5 45x5 100x5 100x5 100x5 105x3
I barely notice the SD at this point. Oddly, I felt it a lot a few days
ago. Maybe it gets "soaked up" by the exercise. Or maybe it is high BP
and the exercise brings it back down to earth. Had a lot of back
soreness from the squats. It was like my lower back was pumped up. Sort
of like people spoke of. Actual 20 reps might be a bad thing.
191lbs

Feb 3
This is ridiculous. I'm catching a pump from TYING A TIE today. I look
freaky huge in my chest, shoulders and back and traps. Biggest I have ever
been. Tired today.
194lbs.
 

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Nice log...will be interesting to follow.

Oh, and are you 21 (what your info says) or 35 (what your log says)?
 
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SD update and start of PCT

Feb 3
This is ridiculous. I'm catching a pump from TYING A TIE today. I look
freaky huge in my chest, shoulders and back and traps. Biggest I have ever
been. Tired today, or I would do some KB snatches.

Feb 4
Squats barx5 (135x5) 225x5 275x15
pull overs 25lb x 15, 20
DB bench + rows supersets 50x5, 50x5 back to sore for the heavy ones.

Feb 5/6 No workout, not feeling the juice so much any more. Kinda tired.
Drank a half bottle wine each day.

Feb 7
Back still sore from super pumped squat (not reallya "I hurt it" sore,
just a "leave me alone" sore).
DB bench + DB row supersets: 45x5 45x5 100x6 100x6 105x4 105x4
DB Goerner exercise 45, 50, 55, 60, 65, 70, 75, 80, 85, 90, 95, 80, 90, 95

Feb 8
First day off superdrol in this 21 day cycle. 191 lbs, 16% bf
PCT: 150mg of clomid.

Feb 9
PCT 150mg clomid.
DB bench (done with rows as superset) 50x5, 50x5, 105x3, 105x3, 105x3, 100x3
DB Rows 50x5 50x5 105x5, 105x5, 105x5
Squats barx5, 135x5, 225x5, 275x15
pull overs (w.squats) 10lbx12, 15, 15
cleans 135x5, 155x5

I am definitely down off the stuff. I was yesterday for certain as well.
 
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SD conclusions from 3 week cycle

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SD Conclusions from first 3 week cycle:

1) I suspect this stuff (SD) has like a 6-8 hour half life. I also suspect
what I ate it with made it more or less potent. I should really have tried
taking it with grapefruit juice. I will the next time.

2) I think it did shut me down a little by the end of week three. It was nowhere
near as bad as a week of 1-AD + 1-T, but I didn't much enjoy the sensation. I
suppose I could have counteracted it with some of my 4-AD stash (which I should
really get rid of, one way or another, all things considered) if I wanted to
cycle longer. Mr Happy worked the whole time; before and during PCT (thus far),
unlike 1-T which turned it off for a frighteningly long time.

3) I got the most benefit from the stuff in the first week. In the first week,
the weight went on. I didn't gain any weight in the second or third weeks, and
my diet along the whole thing was pretty much identical. I could see doing the
stuff for a week on, two weeks off with potentially no PCT, and keeping all the
same gains. Reading all the logs seemed to say the same thing. Most people
gained a shitload in the first week, and hung on to it for the whole cycle,
rather than continuing to grow all cycle long. I don't believe it is water. If
it was water I would have peed it out by now.

4) The back pumps. Sucked. A lot. I generally work my lower back a lot harder than
this. I couldn't while on SD. It was dandy for pumping up the upper body though,
which I guess is what most people want. It also made me look like a veiny ding
dong, which is pretty cool. I suspect all that pump translated into muscle gain.
I don't generally train for a pump, so it was kind of a neat first for me to get
a good one every time I exercised.

5) The **** made me tired. It didn't made me bad tired. Not like T-1 did. But I
was sleepier than usual. While I felt like I had more gas in me by the end of a
workout, I didn't really. In fact, I have more gas at the end of my PCT workout
than I did at the end of any of my SD workouts. SD also made me feel like the
incredible hulk, as far as the testosterone buzz goes. T-1 did not do this for
me at all; it just made me feel like ass. The hulk feeling was well beyond what
4AD did, and qualitatively different. It was mighty cool.

6) The **** definitely gave me high blood pressure. I didn't do a scientific
measurement, by my face was red an awful lot, and I felt like I had eaten 2lbs
of salt every day. This was really the only bad side effect.

7) Freaky Strength Gains? Nonsense. My strength gains were pretty ordinary, and
would have been much the same over that time period without chemical additives.
I got better strength gains from 4-AD. My last workout while on the stuff was
pretty cool; I hold out the idea that maybe a longer cycle would produce really
freaky strength gains, but that was not a direct goal anyway. Mostly I wanted
to gain a few pounds before going on a diet: mission accomplished thus far (if I
can do it another 2 times before diet season, I will be extremely happy)

Plan for next time:
Despite how much fun the stuff is to do, I'll probably do, like a 10 day cycle
the next time. If that works like I think it will, that would be The Way To Go
until the bottle is gone (assuming I can't talk a chinaman into making a couple
pounds for me). I have no intentions of using more than 10mg a day unless I get
no results as that was mighty strong by itself.

I also might try a stack with
4AD, since I have a huge friggin pile of it. As for when to go next, probably in
a month (another week of PCT, and two of rest).
 
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ooooold maaaaan

Nice log...will be interesting to follow.

Oh, and are you 21 (what your info says) or 35 (what your log says)?
I'm 33. I don't know how they got 21 on my user profile, and I've tried a couple of times to change it. Anyway, maybe taking 'roids makes me retarded. But I'm still 33.

-phaeton
 
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I think you may have gotten more strength from 20mg.

good log though, thanks!
 
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Did I miss where you told us your height? Thanks.
 

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SD Conclusions from first 3 week cycle:
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3) I got the most benefit from the stuff in the first week. In the first week,
the weight went on. I didn't gain any weight in the second or third weeks, and
my diet along the whole thing was pretty much identical. I could see doing the
stuff for a week on, two weeks off with potentially no PCT, and keeping all the
same gains. Reading all the logs seemed to say the same thing. Most people
gained a shitload in the first week, and hung on to it for the whole cycle,
rather than continuing to grow all cycle long. I don't believe it is water. If
it was water I would have peed it out by now.

......

It'll take a few days till a week to pee it water gains. You are just less than 2 days into PCT. Wait a few more days and you'll lose approximately five pounds.

I don't think its possible to pack on most of the muscle gains in the first week.
 

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very helpful phaeton, and entertaining as well. thanks.

so when you went off the SD you were +9lbs? did you adjust the diet at all for bulking? or take in similar cals and macros?

good to know about the BP issue - i'll be sure to take necessary precautions on my cycles.

your strength gains shot up on 4-ad cuz it was the first androgen in your body. the first cycle, even if it's mild, will put you through the roof if you do it right. subsequent cycles rarely match that first one.
 
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height

Did I miss where you told us your height? Thanks.
Sorry man; I'm barely 5'6" -a wee cheeky monkey.
But I have the attitude of a 6'6" gorilalilala.

-phaeton
 
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eats and 4AD

very helpful phaeton, and entertaining as well. thanks.

so when you went off the SD you were +9lbs? did you adjust the diet at all for bulking? or take in similar cals and macros?

good to know about the BP issue - i'll be sure to take necessary precautions on my cycles.

your strength gains shot up on 4-ad cuz it was the first androgen in your body. the first cycle, even if it's mild, will put you through the roof if you do it right. subsequent cycles rarely match that first one.
I didn't adjust my diet much. I eat lots of protein, about 5 times a day. I don't count calories; I count too much at work. I used to count grams of protein, now I just make sure it's around 250 or more by eating similar things each day.
My diet might go something like:
Breakfast: plain oatmeal + whey protein, lox chreamcheese bagel sandwich
Snack: fruit, nuts
Lunch: salad + meat, large burger, big sandwich or indian food with lots of meat
Snack: jerkey, cottage cheese or leftovers
Dinner: meat salad 1/2lb to 1lb of meat {shrimp, chicken, beef} on a salad; beans + meat, or whatever I have to buy some female of the species in order to get my n00d on (usually, it's, like, a steak).
Post-dinner shake: a protein shake with egg + milk protein mixed with creatine & skim milk (believe it or not, these get up to around 120g's of protein & almost no fat). I don't usually drink it all at once; it usually goes down around bedtime.

For my post workout snack, I usually eat some super-sugary frozen yogurt for the insulin rush, then some protein shake to load up the old bloodstream with amino acids. This combo works wonders for recovery. I got the idea from Arthur Saxon.

The only noteworthy thing was I ate slightly more starches than usual, and didn't drink so much. I generally put away a couple a day on average (like, 2). In this case, I drank exactly two a week; most of which were towards the end of my cycle. It's possible I should have sucked down an extra (small) protein shake to make up the small caloric difference. I suspect two drinks falls into the noise category. Two guinness, for example, is only like 240calories; wine is even more low cal, as is gin.

Yep + 9 lbs. Note that the value fluctuated from around 190 to 194 the whole cycle, once I gained the weight. That was water for certain (or glycogen?). I think the other guy is probably right in that 190 will be the eventual dry weight.

It's possible the 4-AD was more strengthening because of the way I used it: cyclo- intranasally. Gives you a big nerve charge. Like I said, maybe I will try this again, mixed with the next cycle. It is also possible I am a just a freak in this way, or that, as the other guy suggested, a higher dose of SD would do me more good in that way. I'm certainly hoping it wasn't just a "feels like the first time" effect. If so, dammit, I need to get me to the veterenary supply store.

Anyway, I will continue this thread when I'm all PCT-ed and ready for my next minicycle, and post them results as well. Science is good.

-phaeton
 

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A word of advice to keep your gains.... I tried a 2 weeker. I immidiately started to lose weight in PCT....I lost 5 #'s then went back on SD for another week, then started PCT again (Metacort). Gains have now stabilized.
 
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back pumps lowers strength

I think you may have gotten more strength from 20mg.

good log though, thanks!
Thinking about this more, I figure it was really the back pumps which prevented me from registering more strength. I have always considered the clean or deadlift or squat as the ultimate measure of strength, and I didn't feel like pushing those on this chemical. That's why 4-AD gave me better gains in this regard, methinks. I certainly gained upper body strength.

I'm getting ready for the next 2-3 weeker; maybe I will get me a jug of taurine to counteract the effect and see if I can't push things a bit.

-phaeton
 

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phaeton66, how the hair holding up? 2 weeks is a very short cycle to really see any shedding anyway.
 
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PCT notes

Feb 10
PCT 100mg Clomid

Feb 11
PCT 100mg clomid

Feb 12
PCT 50mg clomid

Feb 13
(down to 50mg clomid daily)
DB Bench 50x5 50x5 105x3 105x4 105x4 105x2
DB rows 50x5 50x5 105x5 105x5 105x5
back squat barx5 135x5 225x5 275x16
pull overx25lb, 15, 15, 20

Feb 14
(down to 50mg clomid daily)

Feb 15
(down to 50mg clomid daily)
DB Bench 55x5 55x5 105x4 105x4 105x3
DB rows 55x5 55x5 105x5 105x5 105x5
Goerner exercise (snatch + press + snatch) 40 45 50 55 60 65 70 75 80 85 90

Feb 16
(down to 50mg clomid daily)

Feb 17
last day PCT (50mg clomid)
DB bench 45x5 45x5 105x3 105x3 105x3
DB row 45x5 45x5 105x5 105x5 105x5
back squats barx5 135x5 225x5 275x17
shrug 135x5 225x5 315x5 315x5 315x5 315x5
cleans 135x5 155x5 165x5

Feb 21
re Started SD

Nothing to report during PCT, other than random "downness."
 
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restart of cycle

Feb 21
Started SD 10mg/daily again; start weight 190lbs
Front squats barx5 135x5 255x5 245x5 255x5 275x4
DB rows + DB Bench (each, supersetted) 40x5, 40x5, 100x5 100x5 105x3
shrugs 135x5 225x5 315x5
Took COE-10, 100mg

Feb 22
Weight 186lbs! Been pissing all night....
Took 50mg COE-10, bought BP machine:
Three measurements average: BP127/82; pulse 92 or so...

No real clue what it normally is, but it looks a tad high. I certainly have the redface and headaches I assumed were high BP symtoms. Maybe it is my imagination. The pulse is probably all screwey from being tired and such (I didn't eat enough to recover yesterday). I thought COE-10 would be a good idea, but some reasearch indicates it takes too long to kick in to be effective, and it may be harmful to what I'm trying to achieve. I bought some celery seed extract stuff (geez, it is hard to find); I will see if it has some good effect.

The SD tweak is definitely there.
 

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