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    another beginner superdrol log


    I've been keeping a log. Figured I should post it. I was going to go two weeks, but I think I'm going to keep it up for another week or two and do a serious PCT instead of my original 2 weeks on 2 weeks off plan.

    Here it is (feedback appreciated):

    Superdrol log:

    Subject, start:
    185lb (175lb before xmas time, if you can imagine it -yes, it's almost
    all fat)
    waist 34.5" (a full inch and a half lard put on since Xmas!),
    chest relaxed, 43.5, flexed, 46.5
    neck 16"
    shoulders 52.5" relaxed, 55" flexed
    jops 41"
    thighs 26"
    arms 15"

    other supps taken:
    creatine
    protein powder (egg + whey)
    vitamins
    piracetam in morning
    cal+mag+zinc before going to sleep

    32 years old

    ~16% bodyfat (hand held electro meter thingee; probably about right from
    skin folds)

    Weights experience: started upon turning 29; about two years and 4
    months total experience. Above average athleticism before hand. I was never really a jock, but I was
    never totally sedentary either.

    Sample impressive lifts from the logbook:
    405 single deadlift
    405 single, 355x20reps back squat
    345x4reps front squat
    210lb single, 195x4reps power clean
    165lb Behind neck press
    655lb rack lift

    Lifting philosophy:
    I tend to do lots of heavy sets of low reps or singles in most exercises
    with long rests in between sets.
    Things like single hand snatches or breathing squats, and most recently,
    the breathing deadlift, I will do for higher reps. I get strong with both
    methods, but they're for different purposes. I try to have a little of
    both in every workout. I don't like doing huge amounts of volume, as that
    is for you bodybuilding type fellows. Plus, when I do such things, I tend
    to get injured (german volume style training on weighted dips fried my
    rotators; live and learn). I do like to train often, and have no ill
    effects from it, other than getting stronger quicker. I might do a
    workout like this two to three times a week, with active recovery days of
    doing snatches or handstand push ups or something:

    3x5reps squat warmup
    20 rep squat with heavy weight
    20 rep squat with lighter weight

    5x5 bench press
    5x5 power clean, or rack lockouts or a 20rep deadlift depending on mood
    snatch + press + snatch each side, with 1DB 40lbs working my way up the rack
    to 95 or 100lbs.

    I'm doing this for strength and health. I am not a bodybuilder: no
    offense to those who do it, but I don't want to look like an erect penis;
    that will make my johnson look that much smaller. I am not a
    powerlifter or an olympic lifter -though I am closer to this than to a
    bodybuilder; I don't want to participate in a sport that pushes the human
    body beyond its design limits and end up with ****ed up joints and stuff
    in my old age. My present bench workout is 4-5 reps, 3-5 sets
    with 100lb DBs (with two sets of light DB warmups).

    I just started a powerlifting cycle in the new year; all my weights are at
    the low end of the scale and will be slowly ramped up over the next 4 months.

    Androgen experience;
    1) nasal/sublingual cyclo 4-AD. Did one serious cycle; two weeks on (4-6
    squirts of the homebrew cyclodiol recipe, or some sublingual as
    convenient, every 1.5 to 2 hours in the daytime), two weeks off (a squirt
    or two in the morning to wake me up, and tribulus), for 3 months in a
    row (3 2 week on cycles, and 3 2 week PCT cycles). Started another
    "metacycle" one month later: I should have waited longer, as I
    experienced unpleasant side effects after 10 days (which clomid
    rapidly fixed). This was after my first 6 months of lifting & allowed for
    "beginner gains" to continue for quite a while longer than normal. It was
    a good program; I got it from Par Deus or one of them guys. The idea is,
    the **** is REALLY short acting (as in, an hour and a half), and you only
    use during the day, so it's much less supressive than, say, transdermal,
    or something long lasting like a cypionate. Taking the little bit in the
    morning to get you going is likely to counter any supression from the
    "on" time, and may even have a tonic effect on the pituitary. The stuff
    worked plenty good for what I was looking for, which was to train
    longer and more agressively, and have quicker recovery times. I realize
    this sort of thing is not popular with american bodybuilders, but I like
    it. It suits me well; it seems to have an overall "tonic" effect, rather
    than 6 weeks of feeling like COnan the barbarian, and 8 weeks of feeling
    like his ***** lying in a puddle of come, cigarette butts and booze.

    2) 1-AD oral + sublingual 1-T. I didn't even make it through the first
    week. The **** immediately shut my testicles off and made me into a
    *****. My strength literally plummeted (100lb loss on the squat!) and my
    body felt as if it had been beat up with a meat tenderizer until I
    stopped taking it. Amazingly, I started this stuff up after a really
    radical diet during which time I actually gained strength while losing weight, despite having zero
    carbs in my body. The 1-AD and 1-T felt FAR worse than the diet was. On
    the other hand, I continued to lose weight, and even gained a little lean
    mass after the diet; possibly attributable to the 1-AD. Or maybe the
    clomid I took afterwords. BTW, it took a week or two for the clomid to
    repair the damage to my endocrine system. I still have the rest of that
    1-AD + 1-T **** on my shelf (I'm an imaginary man, so it's not illegal). It
    would be hard to convince me to use it again. Sides? SIDES?!?! I don't
    like feeling like a *****. I don't care if it made me look better.
    Hearing Methyl 1-T is actually harder on your meatsack makes me laff; you
    have to be nuts to take something that makes you feel that way.

    superdrol Plan:
    I plan on doing a 2 week on thing, then coming off. Then we'll see what
    happens. If I feel really supressed and ****ty, I'll wait a month or so.
    If I feel OK, I'll go on again in another 2 weeks and possibly repeat
    once more, or try continuing for 3 or more weeks for a longer cycle. I'll
    probably stick with 10mg/day, as that seems pretty potent thus far. I'll
    be taking it no later than noon. Since I have more or less
    pink receptors, this will keep 'em pink, and assuming the half life is
    like other oral methyls (like, say, dbols or anadrol or whatever =that
    way it won't effect my sleepytime LH levels and such). Plus,
    this is for a tonic effect on my system, not for h000ge gains in size or
    strength.

    Nutrition:
    I eat pretty good; about3- 5kcal + 200-400g's protein a day. Not super
    clean, mind you, but it gets the job done. Usually, some whey + oats for
    breakfast. Whatever I can get for lunch (sandwich or salad), some nuts
    and a protein bar as a snack, a big shake after workout, and a pound of
    meat on a big salad for supper, with possibly another shake as a late
    night snack. Punctuted with fast food a couple times a week.

    workout plan:
    Basically, I'm gonna keep on doing what I am doing and up the volume.
    I plan on upping my squats (I took a month and a half off due to knee
    issues -not an injury, just a form and stretching defect) to previous
    levels, slowly. I'll take the reps up to 20 in the next couple of
    workouts and go up in weight from there, while keeping the form frosty
    cold. I'll probably stick with my 100lb DBs for benching and up the reps for
    man teat growth. For cleans, I'll do more, rather than heavier, and leverage
    this to get heavier later.
    For 1-hand snatch+presses, I have the goal of working my way up to 120lb
    DBs (I'm at 100lb now). If I do high rep D/L's, I'll do more sets. I'll
    also be doing more active recovery if possible. The idea is to up my
    overall work load and associated health using the drug as a systemic
    stimulant.

    The start:
    Jan 18
    I was feeling like warmed over dog**** this afternoon. Like I was
    coming down with the flu. Figured I'd try this stuff out, as it looks like it
    would be good for the white blood cells. Took it with lunch. By 3 in the
    afternoon, I felt like hurling large pieces of metal around.
    Grrrrrrrrrr. This stuff has a better twitch to it than cyclodiol by a
    long mutha****in shot. I can't even imagine what something like
    trenbelone is like. It's good for my work concentration as well.

    In the gym:
    I've been experiencing difficulties lately; between the holiday and
    flirtation with a flu bug, I had a hard time doing heavy sets this
    weekend (I'm also slightly overtrained). This is another reason for a
    chemical kick in the pants. Today I did an excellent workout compared to
    recent ones:
    squat barx5, barx5, 135x5, 135x5, 225x5, 275x5, 295x5, 315x5
    alternated pull overs 25lbx10x20x20x20
    DB bench 50x5, 50x5, 100x4, 100x4, 100x3, 100x4, 100x2
    snatch + press + snatch 40lb DB through 100lb DB in 5lb increments.
    rack lifts, strich hand & thigh: 405x5, 455x2, 505x1

    Jan 19:
    I'm sore. Duh. Didn't sleep enough last night. It wasn't the SD, or the
    training -it was some nasty chinese I had for lunch. Don't feel quite as
    tweaked as I did yesterday. Probably ~5 hours total sleep last night. Ew.
    Lower back is a bit sore in an odd way. Perhaps this is the "back pump"
    people spoke of. Perhaps I just worked out too much.

    Jan 20:
    Didn't notice the stuff when I took it this morning. I feel a little
    tweaked overall though. About 7 hours sleep last night. Total sleep
    deficit of 4 hours; not the best situation to be in. Hungry all friggin
    day. Had one of them carb drinks in the gym; something I almost never do.
    Workout:
    back Squats: barx5, barx5, 135x5, 225x5, 295x5, 315x5, 325x5
    alternated pull overs, 25lb x10, 20, 20, 20
    curls (I never do these, but, well, I'm juicin!): 60x10, 80x5, 80x5
    cleans 135x5, 155x4 -out of gas.
    Felt like I could have kept squatting, but I was pretty well out of gas
    from the other stuff. Next time I squat I'll try a set of 20. Next time I
    work out (probably tomorrow), I'll bench and pull. As usual with this
    sort of thing, the soreness in hips and legs went away with the workout.
    Get this; I'm up 4 friggin pounds. BF% is the same. Maybe the creatine
    did it (I started creatine on Jan 3). Maybe it's water. If I gain a pound
    a day on this ****, it would be outrageous. Though I recall early testers
    gaining a couple lbs in the first few days and shedding them later.

    Jan 21:
    Did benching and some curls today; unbelievable pumps! Still on a
    measeley 10mg, but I'm feeling it with the past two nights of acceptable
    sleep and nutirtion. I feel like a walking priapism. My penis *is* a
    walking priapism. Seriously, parts of my anatomy I didn't really work
    yesterday are STILL pumped. The pumps make it hard to complete my sets; I
    suspect my ordinary training is the "anti-pump" workout, which is why I
    don't usually gain muscle mass. Presently up to 192lbs. 7lbs weight gain
    thus far -mere days!. Bodyfat is about the same. I feel like I could work
    out all goddamned night.
    Tomorrow's workout will be homeric.
    Todays Workout:
    DB bench: 50x5, 50x5, 100x5, 100x3, 100x4, 65x5, 65x5
    curls: 70x8, 70x8, 70x8

    Jan 22:
    OK, so I didn't work out today.
    I felt I could have, but it got rather late before I got to it.
    I still feel kind of pumped. I'm not used to feeling pumped ever. This
    stuff makes me pumped. Veins all over my shoulders...


    Been feeling REALLY aggro all weekend. Also, I get tired easy. Weight is
    down a pound today. Bodyfat probably about the same. Will probably squat
    and bench tomorrow.

    Jan 24:
    OK, that was probably dumb. 20mg today. Taken in the morning and at lunch.
    Felt high blood pressurey and aggro. Like my IQ went down 20 points.

    Oddly, I am down to 186 or so again at about the same bodyfat ratio as
    previously. Presumably this is due to loss of water. Or it could be the
    KB effect I have noticed before. My workout today should have been better
    but my lower back was feeling a bit off. Testing it for stretch tells me
    it was a bit overstressed.
    Workout: Back squats: bar x 5, 135x5, 225x5, 315x5, 325x5, 335x3
    pull overs 25lbs x 20, 20
    DB bench press 45x5, 45x5, 100x5, 100x5, 100x4

    Felt like I could have done more if my back was better. Next time,
    perhaps some curls and rows.

    Probably go back to 10mg tomorrow.
    Sides: besides the aggro-ness and subjective high BP feeling; my nuts don't
    feel as big as usual, but this might be psychosomatic. Still a walking
    priapism, both in the "damn, I be pumped up" category, and the, my penis
    won't turn off category. A bit headachey. Got to start thinking about
    when to cycle in the clomid I suppose.

    People's reported strength gains, really, seem overblown. Either that, or
    I have a naturally high DHT level or something. My actual strength is
    about where I expect it to be on my present cycle of strength training
    w/o androgens. Though admittedly, I was off track until I started taking
    the stuff.

    Jan 25
    Still have the "too much" feeling a bit.
    Rows 60x6 80x5 100x5 105x4 110x4 110x4
    curls 65x10 8x8 85x6

    Jan 26
    STILL feeling mighty mighty. Was a bit tired during the day. Felt I might
    even skip squats in the gym. Once I got there I was all kinds of fired up.
    squats barx5 135x5 225x5 315x5 525x5 335x5
    pull over x25lb 5, 10, 15, 20 ,20, 20; 15 (w/deads)
    DB bench: 50x5 45x5 100x4, 100x5 100x6
    deadlifts: 135x5 285x5 185x20


    back to 190lbs.

    Jan 27
    day off from the gym. Had two drinks and an asian girl.

    Jan 28
    Back squat barx5, 135x5, 225x5
    23lb pull over 10,15
    DB bench 40x5, 40x5, 100x5, 100x6, 100x5
    DB rows 40x5, 40x4, 100x5, 110x5, 110x4
    Not up to snuff on the squats.

    Jan 29
    day off

    Jan 30
    KB workout;
    Press: 54x5, 72x5, 88x2, 54x9, 72x6m 88x3, 54x5, 72x5

    Jan 31
    squats barx5, 135x5, 225x5, 325x5, 335x5, 275x15
    25lb pull overs 20, 20, 20
    DB bench: 45x5, 45x5, 100x5, 100x5, 100x5
    windmill 40x5, 40x5, 40x5 (each side)
    cleans 135x5 155x5 165x5
    Felt tweaked at lunch.

    Feb 1
    Whoa; 20 reps really kick mine arse. Day off.

    Feb 2
    squats barx5 135x5 225x5 275x15 185x15
    25lb pull overs, 15, 20, 20
    DB Bench press 45x5 45x5 100x5 100x5 100x5 105x3 105x1
    DB row 45x5 45x5 100x5 100x5 100x5 105x3
    I barely notice the SD at this point. Oddly, I felt it a lot a few days
    ago. Maybe it gets "soaked up" by the exercise. Or maybe it is high BP
    and the exercise brings it back down to earth. Had a lot of back
    soreness from the squats. It was like my lower back was pumped up. Sort
    of like people spoke of. Actual 20 reps might be a bad thing.
    191lbs

    Feb 3
    This is ridiculous. I'm catching a pump from TYING A TIE today. I look
    freaky huge in my chest, shoulders and back and traps. Biggest I have ever
    been. Tired today.
    194lbs.

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    Nice log...will be interesting to follow.

    Oh, and are you 21 (what your info says) or 35 (what your log says)?
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    SD update and start of PCT


    Feb 3
    This is ridiculous. I'm catching a pump from TYING A TIE today. I look
    freaky huge in my chest, shoulders and back and traps. Biggest I have ever
    been. Tired today, or I would do some KB snatches.

    Feb 4
    Squats barx5 (135x5) 225x5 275x15
    pull overs 25lb x 15, 20
    DB bench + rows supersets 50x5, 50x5 back to sore for the heavy ones.

    Feb 5/6 No workout, not feeling the juice so much any more. Kinda tired.
    Drank a half bottle wine each day.

    Feb 7
    Back still sore from super pumped squat (not reallya "I hurt it" sore,
    just a "leave me alone" sore).
    DB bench + DB row supersets: 45x5 45x5 100x6 100x6 105x4 105x4
    DB Goerner exercise 45, 50, 55, 60, 65, 70, 75, 80, 85, 90, 95, 80, 90, 95

    Feb 8
    First day off superdrol in this 21 day cycle. 191 lbs, 16% bf
    PCT: 150mg of clomid.

    Feb 9
    PCT 150mg clomid.
    DB bench (done with rows as superset) 50x5, 50x5, 105x3, 105x3, 105x3, 100x3
    DB Rows 50x5 50x5 105x5, 105x5, 105x5
    Squats barx5, 135x5, 225x5, 275x15
    pull overs (w.squats) 10lbx12, 15, 15
    cleans 135x5, 155x5

    I am definitely down off the stuff. I was yesterday for certain as well.
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    SD conclusions from 3 week cycle


    ****************************** **********************
    SD Conclusions from first 3 week cycle:

    1) I suspect this stuff (SD) has like a 6-8 hour half life. I also suspect
    what I ate it with made it more or less potent. I should really have tried
    taking it with grapefruit juice. I will the next time.

    2) I think it did shut me down a little by the end of week three. It was nowhere
    near as bad as a week of 1-AD + 1-T, but I didn't much enjoy the sensation. I
    suppose I could have counteracted it with some of my 4-AD stash (which I should
    really get rid of, one way or another, all things considered) if I wanted to
    cycle longer. Mr Happy worked the whole time; before and during PCT (thus far),
    unlike 1-T which turned it off for a frighteningly long time.

    3) I got the most benefit from the stuff in the first week. In the first week,
    the weight went on. I didn't gain any weight in the second or third weeks, and
    my diet along the whole thing was pretty much identical. I could see doing the
    stuff for a week on, two weeks off with potentially no PCT, and keeping all the
    same gains. Reading all the logs seemed to say the same thing. Most people
    gained a ****load in the first week, and hung on to it for the whole cycle,
    rather than continuing to grow all cycle long. I don't believe it is water. If
    it was water I would have peed it out by now.

    4) The back pumps. Sucked. A lot. I generally work my lower back a lot harder than
    this. I couldn't while on SD. It was dandy for pumping up the upper body though,
    which I guess is what most people want. It also made me look like a veiny ding
    dong, which is pretty cool. I suspect all that pump translated into muscle gain.
    I don't generally train for a pump, so it was kind of a neat first for me to get
    a good one every time I exercised.

    5) The **** made me tired. It didn't made me bad tired. Not like T-1 did. But I
    was sleepier than usual. While I felt like I had more gas in me by the end of a
    workout, I didn't really. In fact, I have more gas at the end of my PCT workout
    than I did at the end of any of my SD workouts. SD also made me feel like the
    incredible hulk, as far as the testosterone buzz goes. T-1 did not do this for
    me at all; it just made me feel like ass. The hulk feeling was well beyond what
    4AD did, and qualitatively different. It was mighty cool.

    6) The **** definitely gave me high blood pressure. I didn't do a scientific
    measurement, by my face was red an awful lot, and I felt like I had eaten 2lbs
    of salt every day. This was really the only bad side effect.

    7) Freaky Strength Gains? Nonsense. My strength gains were pretty ordinary, and
    would have been much the same over that time period without chemical additives.
    I got better strength gains from 4-AD. My last workout while on the stuff was
    pretty cool; I hold out the idea that maybe a longer cycle would produce really
    freaky strength gains, but that was not a direct goal anyway. Mostly I wanted
    to gain a few pounds before going on a diet: mission accomplished thus far (if I
    can do it another 2 times before diet season, I will be extremely happy)

    Plan for next time:
    Despite how much fun the stuff is to do, I'll probably do, like a 10 day cycle
    the next time. If that works like I think it will, that would be The Way To Go
    until the bottle is gone (assuming I can't talk a chinaman into making a couple
    pounds for me). I have no intentions of using more than 10mg a day unless I get
    no results as that was mighty strong by itself.

    I also might try a stack with
    4AD, since I have a huge friggin pile of it. As for when to go next, probably in
    a month (another week of PCT, and two of rest).
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    ooooold maaaaan


    Quote Originally Posted by Ribosome
    Nice log...will be interesting to follow.

    Oh, and are you 21 (what your info says) or 35 (what your log says)?
    I'm 33. I don't know how they got 21 on my user profile, and I've tried a couple of times to change it. Anyway, maybe taking 'roids makes me retarded. But I'm still 33.

    -phaeton
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    I think you may have gotten more strength from 20mg.

    good log though, thanks!
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    Good log bro. You detailed it well.
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    Did I miss where you told us your height? Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phaeton66
    ****************************** **********************
    SD Conclusions from first 3 week cycle:
    .......
    3) I got the most benefit from the stuff in the first week. In the first week,
    the weight went on. I didn't gain any weight in the second or third weeks, and
    my diet along the whole thing was pretty much identical. I could see doing the
    stuff for a week on, two weeks off with potentially no PCT, and keeping all the
    same gains. Reading all the logs seemed to say the same thing. Most people
    gained a ****load in the first week, and hung on to it for the whole cycle,
    rather than continuing to grow all cycle long. I don't believe it is water. If
    it was water I would have peed it out by now.

    ......

    It'll take a few days till a week to pee it water gains. You are just less than 2 days into PCT. Wait a few more days and you'll lose approximately five pounds.

    I don't think its possible to pack on most of the muscle gains in the first week.
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    good log lots of info, thanks
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    very helpful phaeton, and entertaining as well. thanks.

    so when you went off the SD you were +9lbs? did you adjust the diet at all for bulking? or take in similar cals and macros?

    good to know about the BP issue - i'll be sure to take necessary precautions on my cycles.

    your strength gains shot up on 4-ad cuz it was the first androgen in your body. the first cycle, even if it's mild, will put you through the roof if you do it right. subsequent cycles rarely match that first one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rrgg
    Did I miss where you told us your height? Thanks.
    Sorry man; I'm barely 5'6" -a wee cheeky monkey.
    But I have the attitude of a 6'6" gorilalilala.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blank!
    very helpful phaeton, and entertaining as well. thanks.

    so when you went off the SD you were +9lbs? did you adjust the diet at all for bulking? or take in similar cals and macros?

    good to know about the BP issue - i'll be sure to take necessary precautions on my cycles.

    your strength gains shot up on 4-ad cuz it was the first androgen in your body. the first cycle, even if it's mild, will put you through the roof if you do it right. subsequent cycles rarely match that first one.
    I didn't adjust my diet much. I eat lots of protein, about 5 times a day. I don't count calories; I count too much at work. I used to count grams of protein, now I just make sure it's around 250 or more by eating similar things each day.
    My diet might go something like:
    Breakfast: plain oatmeal + whey protein, lox chreamcheese bagel sandwich
    Snack: fruit, nuts
    Lunch: salad + meat, large burger, big sandwich or indian food with lots of meat
    Snack: jerkey, cottage cheese or leftovers
    Dinner: meat salad 1/2lb to 1lb of meat {shrimp, chicken, beef} on a salad; beans + meat, or whatever I have to buy some female of the species in order to get my n00d on (usually, it's, like, a steak).
    Post-dinner shake: a protein shake with egg + milk protein mixed with creatine & skim milk (believe it or not, these get up to around 120g's of protein & almost no fat). I don't usually drink it all at once; it usually goes down around bedtime.

    For my post workout snack, I usually eat some super-sugary frozen yogurt for the insulin rush, then some protein shake to load up the old bloodstream with amino acids. This combo works wonders for recovery. I got the idea from Arthur Saxon.

    The only noteworthy thing was I ate slightly more starches than usual, and didn't drink so much. I generally put away a couple a day on average (like, 2). In this case, I drank exactly two a week; most of which were towards the end of my cycle. It's possible I should have sucked down an extra (small) protein shake to make up the small caloric difference. I suspect two drinks falls into the noise category. Two guinness, for example, is only like 240calories; wine is even more low cal, as is gin.

    Yep + 9 lbs. Note that the value fluctuated from around 190 to 194 the whole cycle, once I gained the weight. That was water for certain (or glycogen?). I think the other guy is probably right in that 190 will be the eventual dry weight.

    It's possible the 4-AD was more strengthening because of the way I used it: cyclo- intranasally. Gives you a big nerve charge. Like I said, maybe I will try this again, mixed with the next cycle. It is also possible I am a just a freak in this way, or that, as the other guy suggested, a higher dose of SD would do me more good in that way. I'm certainly hoping it wasn't just a "feels like the first time" effect. If so, dammit, I need to get me to the veterenary supply store.

    Anyway, I will continue this thread when I'm all PCT-ed and ready for my next minicycle, and post them results as well. Science is good.

    -phaeton
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    A word of advice to keep your gains.... I tried a 2 weeker. I immidiately started to lose weight in PCT....I lost 5 #'s then went back on SD for another week, then started PCT again (Metacort). Gains have now stabilized.
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    back pumps lowers strength


    Quote Originally Posted by Deoudes59
    I think you may have gotten more strength from 20mg.

    good log though, thanks!
    Thinking about this more, I figure it was really the back pumps which prevented me from registering more strength. I have always considered the clean or deadlift or squat as the ultimate measure of strength, and I didn't feel like pushing those on this chemical. That's why 4-AD gave me better gains in this regard, methinks. I certainly gained upper body strength.

    I'm getting ready for the next 2-3 weeker; maybe I will get me a jug of taurine to counteract the effect and see if I can't push things a bit.

    -phaeton
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    phaeton66, how the hair holding up? 2 weeks is a very short cycle to really see any shedding anyway.
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    PCT notes


    Feb 10
    PCT 100mg Clomid

    Feb 11
    PCT 100mg clomid

    Feb 12
    PCT 50mg clomid

    Feb 13
    (down to 50mg clomid daily)
    DB Bench 50x5 50x5 105x3 105x4 105x4 105x2
    DB rows 50x5 50x5 105x5 105x5 105x5
    back squat barx5 135x5 225x5 275x16
    pull overx25lb, 15, 15, 20

    Feb 14
    (down to 50mg clomid daily)

    Feb 15
    (down to 50mg clomid daily)
    DB Bench 55x5 55x5 105x4 105x4 105x3
    DB rows 55x5 55x5 105x5 105x5 105x5
    Goerner exercise (snatch + press + snatch) 40 45 50 55 60 65 70 75 80 85 90

    Feb 16
    (down to 50mg clomid daily)

    Feb 17
    last day PCT (50mg clomid)
    DB bench 45x5 45x5 105x3 105x3 105x3
    DB row 45x5 45x5 105x5 105x5 105x5
    back squats barx5 135x5 225x5 275x17
    shrug 135x5 225x5 315x5 315x5 315x5 315x5
    cleans 135x5 155x5 165x5

    Feb 21
    re Started SD

    Nothing to report during PCT, other than random "downness."
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    restart of cycle


    Feb 21
    Started SD 10mg/daily again; start weight 190lbs
    Front squats barx5 135x5 255x5 245x5 255x5 275x4
    DB rows + DB Bench (each, supersetted) 40x5, 40x5, 100x5 100x5 105x3
    shrugs 135x5 225x5 315x5
    Took COE-10, 100mg

    Feb 22
    Weight 186lbs! Been pissing all night....
    Took 50mg COE-10, bought BP machine:
    Three measurements average: BP127/82; pulse 92 or so...

    No real clue what it normally is, but it looks a tad high. I certainly have the redface and headaches I assumed were high BP symtoms. Maybe it is my imagination. The pulse is probably all screwey from being tired and such (I didn't eat enough to recover yesterday). I thought COE-10 would be a good idea, but some reasearch indicates it takes too long to kick in to be effective, and it may be harmful to what I'm trying to achieve. I bought some celery seed extract stuff (geez, it is hard to find); I will see if it has some good effect.

    The SD tweak is definitely there.
  

  
 

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