Cycles that the pros take...

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  1. Exclamation Cycles that the pros take...


    I was on another board and found a couple of threads that posted the cycles of Craig Titus and Dorian Yates. Thought these were entertaining and interesting threads to read. If any of this is true (and I wouldn't be suprised if it was), that's just an insane amount of drugs to take. Not only would that be hell on one's body, but also on one's wallet. I can't imagine what pro's nowadays, like Coleman and Cutler, take.

    http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/sh...2&page=1&pp=20

    http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=373246


  2. dont know.... pretty insane if its for real. but their actual use is much closer to those cycles than what the 'normal' board members use.
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  3. wow, and i'm amazed at what 500mg/week of test will do.

  4. ..so dorian was using 40ius of slin a day?? jesus

  5. If they are all taking those huge amounts and everyone knows it, why are they not busted by the feds all the time?
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  6. I don't believe either. I seriously doubt Titus or any pro would use tren transdermally with dmso when there are so many more effective ways of using it. And Dorian put his mind into his training, rest, and diet. Everything was done for a reason. I doubt he would take that huge mix of drugs when it makes no sense. There's no rhyme or reason to it, it's just a shotgun blast of drugs. Lastly, a huge amount of drugs does not make a champion. 21 ius of gh/day? Come on.

  7. it does look a bit extreme, but the pros are in a league of their own in every way possible.

  8. 20iu of slin isnt much at all. figure he east 400gms of carbs with his meals, hence 40 ius.

    also just keep in mind, these guys cannot take the chance of using less. This is how they make a living and if everyone uses X amount then its likely they will also, just incase it does give a bigger edge. Then with all that extra muscle, it only makes sense you need more drugs. Im not saying if it is real or not, but its possible.

  9. I have only "talked" to one really huge BBer one on one and he said what a lot of people say, around 2 grams of test a week with GH and maybe slin. Bang for the buck, for getting totally huge, Test is king (esp when your mega dosing it :rolleyes) I find it hard that someone could take all that crap they list and not get sick, if nothing else think of the carbolic acid that must be released into the blood stream ED.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Designer Supps
    20iu of slin isnt much at all. figure he east 400gms of carbs with his meals, hence 40 ius.

    also just keep in mind, these guys cannot take the chance of using less. This is how they make a living and if everyone uses X amount then its likely they will also, just incase it does give a bigger edge. Then with all that extra muscle, it only makes sense you need more drugs. Im not saying if it is real or not, but its possible.
    yea i was going to say.. 40iu might be a pretty light dose considering hes a pro.

    I do 30iu somedays and I ain't jack ****.

  11. not bad not bad... Dorian's cycle looked a little like my first cycle way back in the day back when I just "starting out"

  12. I remember reading an article where some pros like Johnnie Jackson, Ronnie Coleman, Lee Priest, Dexter Jackson and a few others didn't use ridiculous amounts of AAS. People like Ronnie and Johnnie (who had 20 inch arms naturally) are so genetically superior they don't need super amounts of AAS. On the other hand Markus Ruhl uses ridiculous amounts of AAS. To each his own. Still though, they have to train hard, eat right, and stay dedicated.

  13. I'm pretty sure they use a ridiculous amount... they all have to be genetically gifted at that level.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by AcuDoc
    If they are all taking those huge amounts and everyone knows it, why are they not busted by the feds all the time?
    Same reason why Snoop Dog doesn't go to jail for weed?

  15. That is true. I have seen before and after pics of Markus Ruhl. Looking at him early, you wouldn't think he would have made it to be a TOP level bodybuilder. That is one exception I will bring to the table, but its no doubt that you have to have crazy genetics as well.

  16. fwiw, i don't doubt that some pros use cycles like these cycles mentioned HOWEVER...

    how do we know these posted cycles are real for titus, etc.?

    answer: we don't

    just because it's posted on the internet doesn't mean it's true

  17. I think when it comes to "the extreme drug use of pros", it has more to do with length they stay on and precontest drugs, more than taking everything under the sun. You can develope pro level size with test, dbol, and deca, I've seen guys with average genetics do it. It's the condition of the pros at theses sizes that sets them apart. I believe training, genetics, and diet are the reason these guys are pros rather than huge amounts of drugs. Obviously they take LARGER amounts for LONGER periods than recreational bodybuilders, but taking "dorian's cycle" is ridiculous IMO, not to mention illogical. And I really can't see any pro slapping on dmso to use tren when the general consesus is that injecting is far superior. People see a guy close to 300 pounds and lean and assume he's taking everything under the sun, but that's not always the case. Anytime I see a supposed "pro's cycle" pop up, I dismiss it. Most pro's, for various reasons, are pretty tight lipped about what they use. And you simply don't need every drug under the sun to become massive, even with average genetics. The only guy I can think of that still competes that has described what they use is lee priest. He's always been accused of being a heavy user, and he has addressed this. He's not afraid to talk about his use, and the way he describes it is much less than alot of guys in the gym use. I think alot of people(I'm not saying anyone here on this board personally) see these lists as a way to make themselves feel better-"I could be a pro, but I don't want to take all the drugs". Kinda like, "SEE, he's only that big because he's a roid head and eats 35 dbol tabs and shoots a gallon of test every day."

  18. Quote Originally Posted by gizzle
    That is true. I have seen before and after pics of Markus Ruhl. Looking at him early, you wouldn't think he would have made it to be a TOP level bodybuilder. That is one exception I will bring to the table, but its no doubt that you have to have crazy genetics as well.
    I have to disagree with this. The first pics to surfac were when he was a teen. If you look at his structure, wide shoulders, quad sweep, etc., he already had a good base when he started. If you watch his video, it shows him working out at that age, and for a teen who hadn't trained, he was pretty damn impressive.

  19. Lee Priest for example has been quoted in interviews as saying his mass cycles are usually 2cc's of Deca and 2cc's of Para for 8 weeks. He also says he uses small doses of EQ and Winstrol when he cuts. He's only cycled GH a few times and said he doesn't see the big deal about it so doesn't really use it anymore.


    Lee's one of the very few bodybuilders who is genuine and honest about what he does or doesn't take. For example, even though he was paid 10 grand by MuscleTech for a Hydroxycut add, he was quoted on bodybuilding.com as saying "I get more of a pump from a bowl of fruit loops than from CellTech." The guy has a history of telling it like it is, even when it comes to steroids and his steroid use in particular. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on that.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Nullifidian
    Lee Priest for example has been quoted in interviews as saying his mass cycles are usually 2cc's of Deca and 2cc's of Para for 8 weeks. He also says he uses small doses of EQ and Winstrol when he cuts. He's only cycled GH a few times and said he doesn't see the big deal about it so doesn't really use it anymore.


    Lee's one of the very few bodybuilders who is genuine and honest about what he does or doesn't take. For example, even though he was paid 10 grand by MuscleTech for a Hydroxycut add, he was quoted on bodybuilding.com as saying "I get more of a pump from a bowl of fruit loops than from CellTech." The guy has a history of telling it like it is, even when it comes to steroids and his steroid use in particular. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on that.
    Exactly. I don't see any reason to not believe him. Plus, have you seen pics of him when he was 13? The guy is a genetic freak. I think that having great genetics doesn't mean that you can tolerate more drugs, but that you can get more out of less drugs than someone with average gentics would.

  21. I'm sure one of the necessary factors in becoming a top pro is being a hyperresponder. I should count my blessings then for sure. 90mg of M1,4 per day does for me more than what 50mg of Dianabol does for a lot of people by all descriptions of what to expect.

  22. Well, Markus at 19 was not all that big....Markus at 23 after a few good cycles was HUGE.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by gizzle
    Well, Markus at 19 was not all that big....Markus at 23 after a few good cycles was HUGE.
    You have to remember, that was before weights. If he had been lifting weights then no he wasn't big, but For not training with weights, just playing soccer, I'd say he was big. What I'd like to know is how he went from his size at the world championships(or whatever it was called) to now. He freakin exploded!

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Nullifidian
    Lee Priest for example has been quoted in interviews as saying his mass cycles are usually 2cc's of Deca and 2cc's of Para for 8 weeks. He also says he uses small doses of EQ and Winstrol when he cuts. He's only cycled GH a few times and said he doesn't see the big deal about it so doesn't really use it anymore.


    Lee's one of the very few bodybuilders who is genuine and honest about what he does or doesn't take. For example, even though he was paid 10 grand by MuscleTech for a Hydroxycut add, he was quoted on bodybuilding.com as saying "I get more of a pump from a bowl of fruit loops than from CellTech." The guy has a history of telling it like it is, even when it comes to steroids and his steroid use in particular. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on that.
    i've read that too and i'm sorry i just don't believe you can get to be lee's size at 5'4 or whatever height he is by only using deca and para at those doses for only 8 weeks .. i mean the deca would have barely just kicked in ... about the GH, i don't know, but i would be VERY surprised if he didn't use slin as well as masteron before a contest

    i think he does much much longer cycles with a test base ... that's just my opinion, if you go to other boards where IFBB pros post (not big names like dex or marcus etc but people with their card none the less) they admit to using large cycles basically year round

  25. I agree with glen. I'm sure Lee isn't telling the entire truth. These guys are juicing and juicing hard year around. They compete several times a year and in between comps they have guest appearences and such. Do you think they can afford to go off cycle and look flat and soft? They gotta keep up appearances. How do you think they make money. Not saying it's the drugs doing all the work. Of course it isn't, but it does play a major role nonetheless.
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