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ALRI's new phermone...

  1.  01-31-2005  04:26 PM
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    ALRI's new phermone...


    Anybody know anything about this is the compound it contains?
    http://www.alrindustries.com/ergomax-lmg.htm

    Pherobolixâ„¢: 10mg
    (Unique proprietary pheromone matrix for promoting extreme recovery)

    I don't see it mention exactly what it is in the link.
    ???



  2.  01-31-2005  04:34 PM
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    doesnt even say whats in it how do you know its a pheromone?

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    I concur with Bryan

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    It appears to be M4OHN or something similar to it. My paranoid mind tells me to stay away from ordering this at the moment, god forbid they are setting us up. I also wouldn't be surprised if companies start putting PH's into their products and sell them as something else.

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    Pherobolixâ„¢: 10mg
    (Unique proprietary pheromone matrix for promoting extreme recovery)

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    Originally Posted by Iron Warrior
    It appears to be M4OHN or something similar to it. My paranoid mind tells me to stay away from ordering this at the moment, god forbid they are setting us up. I also wouldn't be surprised if companies start putting PH's into their products and sell them as something else.
    That's what I wasn't sure of. I am not going to order it because it seems kind of shady since they don't say what exactly is in it, but just curious as to if anyone could find info on it.

  7.  01-31-2005  05:54 PM
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    I believe in ALR supplements. However, I would like to see the ingredients before I comment.

  8.  01-31-2005  06:28 PM
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    I saw this a week ago, I'll email them to find out what it contains chemically.

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    How many people are going to purchase this without knowing what is in it? It doesnt seem like it is being marketed to a discerning group.

  10.  01-31-2005  09:25 PM
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    I am willing to try it because they make good products.

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    I considered purchasing from them some time ago, but prices were too high despite the fact that everyone elses were going down. I might but I dont like to gamble on a "mystery" product. Just my feelings on this. Otherwise go for it Gizzle, let us know what it is Im sure they will sell it out regardless.

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    I will, but I am about to start a 15 week cycle(my last),so it will be some time before I try it out. I will include it in my PCT protocol though.

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    I don't see Pherobolix all I see is ErgoMAX LMG is this the same product you guys are talking about?

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    Yes

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    Originally Posted by jmh80
    I saw this a week ago, I'll email them to find out what it contains chemically.
    keep us posted. Maybe its a new PH that is not on the banlist (yet)...

  16.  02-01-2005  02:27 PM
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    Sh*t I hope they didnt find what I have been saving. Anyone find out what the chem is? I knew I should have released this (if its my stuff) instead of waiting till the summer.

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    I guess I wont be waiting any longer, alright fellas, Ill get going, Ive got a greattweak for it so it should be stronger but its going to take me a few weeks to get it capped. Talk about stealing my thunder, what a shock!

    I dont see how he thinks it inhibits cortisol...but I guess that is marketing.

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    Get On It

  19.  02-01-2005  03:02 PM
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    I e-mailed them and this is what they replied with:

    Hello:

    No, 4OHN is illegal and we discontinued sales before the ban...of course.

    I understand. Hope I can be of some help.



    2 of the real problems with introducing a new compound (never been sold anywhere) to the market is that no one knows what it is. As example no one had heard of M-1-T prior to its introduction and most who did have some research capabilities swore it never existed. Oddly enough what they missed was that it had been studies by Ciba and was a patented AAS in Europe with lots of research from the late 70's.



    The second problem is that even when a company spends $40K on a patent, there will be endless copiers on the market within weeks of release. We had this problem when we were the R&D behind HM Gear (now closed as we will not work with them any longer). We had released Testosterone-OH, Nandrolone-OH, MOHN, and isomerized M-4-AD in 2002. Within 30 days we had over 30 brands claiming they had it first...yet Author L. Rea (our head cheese) had been using all of them with his professional athletes since 1996. Our pending patents did nothing for us in court. But a lot of people made a lot of money and notiriety on our work. We have learned to do things differently now.



    Anyway, to answer your question, we have created Pherobolixâ„¢ (Unique proprietary pheromone matrix for promoting extreme recovery). The product has a little over a 10 hour half life per dose and acts through mediation of the same receptors as natural testosterone does. Interestingly enough, our experience over the years of working with this complex is that it tends to dramatically increase sexual interest. This is compounded by most noting an increase in sperm production durring the first 2-3 weeks of use. At 8 weeks there is some HPTA inhibition but certaily not on a level of most AAS.



    Try 2 bottles, if you do not like it return the unused portion within 3 weeks with a copy of your original invoice and we will be happy to refund your purchase price. Only an idiot would want an unhappy customer. lol



    As all but 15% of our current inventory was presold before release we have to assume someone likes it. I hope yu will as well.



    Thanks!

    Matt





    (This is from an interview ALR did for Core mag, if you are interested)



    ErgoMax LMG is very similar in action to a stack of M-1-T and MOHN, though there is no lethargy or the CNS burn-out or excessive liver issues to contend with. I spent the last 5 years using it to replace Halo/Stanozolol in my clients protocols and can only say that I am very proud of the results. We own the patent on it and it would be very hard to copy as most would miss the reason it works so well (two of my 4th year biochem interns did when I challenged them to copy it). Try it. I did an interview in Core mag (www.readthecore.com) this month where I invite anyone to buy 2 bottles and try it. If they are not impressed with the results then simply return the unused portion with the original invoice and we will refund the purchase price. I am that sure of our products. If my name is on the label my best goes into the bottle. That simple.

    ALR
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Joel
    To: matthew@alrindustries.com
    Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 5:32 PM
    Subject: Product Supportrt


    Hello, I noticed you guys have a compound similar to M4OHN but you guys did not list what's in the product. Can you please let me know if this actual M4OHN or something else ? Thanks

    They did not disclose what the compound is but said there is some shutdown

  20.  02-01-2005  03:07 PM
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    Sounds very interesting, wonder if it really is the same thing sledge is holding. Anyone gonna try it??

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