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[bigdaddyjst]

I have been doing research and trying to plan my next cycle I need some advice on what I have planned tell me what you think
Test e 1-6 600 split twice a week
Test e 6-14 800
Tren e 1-6 400
Tren e 6-12 600 split
Dbol 1-5 50 ed
1-16 arimidex0.25 eod
3-16 hcg 250ui tpw
Pct- Clomid 16-20 - 50/5025/25/25
Armoasin 16-21 25ad-25eod-12.5eod-12.5e3d- 12.5e4d-12.5e5d
tell me what you think any changesor any suggestions would be niceand would help a lot

 

[jbryand101b]

Tpw? Tiny penis wanker?

 

[bigdaddyjst]

Ha ha
have twice per week bro

 

[bigdaddyjst]

Split shots. example: mon 400 fri 400

 

[jbryand101b]

oh, so you just meant you're going to be running test e 600mg/week weeks 1-6 + tren e 400mg/week weeks 1-4, then bump the test e up to 800mg/week & tren 600mg/week.

couple things,
A)what is your reasoning for bumping the tren e earlier than the test e, and then stopping the tren e before the test e? why not run the two together?

B) your reasoning behind dosing the test higher than the tren?

so you want to run a test/tren/dbol cycle. bulking?

 

[bigdaddyjst]

Yes I always heard to run more test then trend I was going to bump them both up at week 6 and run the test two weeks longer should I leave them the same during the whole cycleand how does everything else look any advice

 

[jbryand101b]

That's funny, I always read test should be lower than the Tren.

 

[bigdaddyjst]

what would you do

 

[Viking23]

Okay both have their followers when it comes to higher test and lower tren and vice versa. When you run test higher than tren then I would insist you run tren lower because they both attach to the same receptor so the more excess that's in the blood equals more sides. So maybe a 500 mg test and 300 tren.

Now the other way seems to be more popular and if you go that way I would say run at least 250-300mg of test and tren start at 400 and you can bump as needed.

I do agree with stopping tren sooner than test as a lot of guys say it eases pct because tren does suppress htpa worst than test alone. I would however start pct around 3 weeks after you discontinue all gear. Its not to popular here but I have been told by a very knowledgeable endo specialist that you must wait three weeks for long ester gear to drop enough for pct to work properly .

Either way I personally don't know who to believe but he has enough credentials for me to start my pct 2 1/2 weeks after cycle. To each his own, just giving my advice.

 

[bigdaddyjst]

so Viking23 what do you think of my cycle plan everything about it PCT and allneed as much advice as possible before I run this cycle help would be appreciated bro

 

[jbryand101b]

I've never seen it not recommended to let an ester clear? What forums r you reading? That's just common sense.

Run a oral while the ester clears. Id recommend winni

 

[GreenEarth]

I really don't see any great reason to plan on ramping up doses from what you start with. I've seen a lot of people increase doses in the middle of a cycle, but that's because they feel what they're taking isn't doing enough for them. If I were you I would plan to run the test and tren at a steady dose the entire cycle, only bump up if you actually notice a significant stall in progress. Trenbolone is such an insanely powerful compound, and testosterone is certainly nothing to balk at either. I see no reason to plan a bump in dosing.

Taking more of a compound typically increases your risks for sides. If you take the two of them @ 600mg each and have great results with little sides, why would you bother risking more sides for a low-to-moderate hike in gains? Seems silly and foolhardy to me.

Also, could you share your past cycle experience? Honestly, if you've never used tren before, 600mg of tren e seems a bit excessive.

 

[Viking23]

I've never seen it not recommended to let an ester clear? What forums r you reading? That's just common sense.

Run a oral while the ester clears. Id recommend winni

Idk if you miss read my post but I said to wait three weeks before you start pct. Everyone on here says wait only two weeks so I said "I personally would just start at 2 1/2 weeks". But to each his own.

And I'm also on meso

 

[jbryand101b]

And I'm also on meso

Congratulations?

 

[Viking23]

Congratulations?

You asked what forum I was reading? Didn't you?

 

[Viking23]

Congratulations?

I'm sorry bro I just must have misunderstood your post and thought you were questioning me.

 

[bigdaddyjst]

other than the PCT do you think everything else looks good I'm thinking about running more trim then test heard you get better gains cuz of the whole receptor saying

 

[bigdaddyjst]

I was stupid and ran test and tren my first cycle got awesome games ran it for 14 weeks recovered pretty fast this will be my second cycle I have been reading a lot about running trend higher then test thinking about switching it up but other than that what do you think about my cycle plans PCT also what would you change