Prohormones are out now what's next ???
- 01-22-2005, 07:32 AM
- 01-22-2005, 10:59 AM
01-22-2005, 11:32 AM
Yes that’s the right answert I want to hear thanks . But I don’t expect more
from a 20 year old.... :-)
01-22-2005, 11:41 AM
isn't gonna be anything non-hormonal that works as good as roids or PH's anytime in the near future
maybe myostatin blocking sometime in the next 10 years or so
01-22-2005, 11:52 AM
01-22-2005, 11:53 AM
01-22-2005, 12:01 PM
01-22-2005, 12:20 PM
What the heck? If you're gonna commit a friggin *felony*, don't do it for PH!!! Go for the real deal if you are going to risk doing time or paying huge fines...
01-22-2005, 12:43 PM
01-22-2005, 12:53 PM
01-22-2005, 04:40 PM
I think they are going to take creatine and make it better. maybe a few new ideas with be introduced.
01-22-2005, 05:36 PM
Taken from that page:
"Another Worrisome Supplement
NYU’s Dr. Wadler says he’s still concerned about some of these other products not included in the ban. One of them is called Tribulous Terrestris, which is thought to promote testosterone production. Wadler says it's been found to cause neurological problems in sheep. But since the concoction is still considered a supplement, not a drug, it’s legal to sell over the counter."
Problems in sheep. Sheep. Wow, what a joke.
01-22-2005, 05:46 PM
01-22-2005, 06:47 PM
This possibilty should not be dismissed so lightly. There is a helluva a lot more evidence showing this plant is potentially toxic than there is showing it's an effective anabolic.Originally Posted by Swole
01-22-2005, 07:10 PM
01-22-2005, 09:31 PM
01-22-2005, 09:42 PM
01-22-2005, 10:43 PM
Wow that's surprising...I haven't read anything regarding it's toxicity. I only use trib as part of my PCT to restore natural test levels.Originally Posted by Rogue Drone
01-23-2005, 12:43 AM
01-23-2005, 01:30 AM
01-23-2005, 03:10 AM
Let me say it a bit differently then cause not everyone *understood* what I meant.
new steroids (superdrol) > old steroids (whatever banned back in 1990)
It's common brotelligence that the old stuff is better than any of the new stuff.. completely not true with Superdrol.
I think I will take my side-effect free Superdrol which gives me 11lbs of lean mass in less than 2 weeks and insane strength gains (+50lbs on incline barbell bench over 4 weeks).
01-23-2005, 04:23 AM
uppers are the **** rightnow- I WANT DOMINATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the intensity of good 30 minute rush is like a partioning agent- a bulker(motivated) and aggresivness to keep wanting to hit it harder and harder- you know the feeling- its the best!
also citruline and CEE's- increasing thresholds-without a doubt is a help
staminia products like alcar but variants on it- like acid buffer's and ****
also im sure theres going to be some sort of partioner like lepitgen mass
Or you know, what ever Stryder has in stock!
01-23-2005, 02:17 PM
01-23-2005, 03:32 PM
I read somewhere that the sheep that had the problems ate the plant in insane doses, something like 100 times more than anybody supplementing it would normally take.Originally Posted by Rogue Drone
01-23-2005, 07:04 PM
You are right, Rob. The neurological poisoining of sheep is from huge quantities, and though I've seen two studies on human liver cells with Trib saponins causing problems, I can't find them , so I'll retract my first statement but keep the latter, the clinical evidence supporting Trib as an Anabolic or Recovery Supplement is weak.
I prefer hormonal precursors like DHEA and my personal mix, a Pregnenelone dermal, as the ancillary to HCG or a SERM for PCT. I feel this is a more elegant way to kickstart the HPTA with the supply of building blocks than using things like Trib or Fenugreek.
01-23-2005, 07:22 PM
Try this combination, a great combination for anyone but I use it pre and post cycle. I will administer this combination on offseason(6 months that I do not use AAS).
-Tribex by biotest or the new alpha male
-cAMHIBOLIC from USP labs at synergymuscle.com
-Creatine ethyl ester or any cratine product
-Vinpocetine, boca moniera, acetly choline
-same as above but using the SYnergy Recovery protocol
This combination is a potent alterantive
01-23-2005, 07:50 PM
USPLABS you think tribex is a good supplement? It once was many years ago just as EAS made great products many many years ago, however they have both sold out and I think they sell bunk products now. Anyways I bought a bottle of their newer and improved Tribex 500 and it did nothing. Dont get me wrong here I used to use the stuff with killer success years ago, but I think what they sell is advertising now. Plus there is not any studys that prove tribulus raises test levels to begin with, right, I know it increases libido but that is about all from what I have read.
Arnold SchwarzeneggerOriginally Posted by Arnold Schwarzenegger
01-23-2005, 09:05 PM
Don't get your hopes up. Anything that is going to come out that might actually build muscle is going to be banned by government.
01-23-2005, 11:04 PM
take time to read the cAMPHIBOLIC series at synergymuscle.com, you will find some interesting facts.Originally Posted by PumpDogg
There are many scenarios that would lead one to conclude a supplement did not work. Tribulous is not my area of expertise so not sure if any studies have be conducted on testosterone levels. The tribex 500 always worked for me personally. I usually double the dose and only stay on for 3-4 weeks. Clomid is works on the same level so you could substitute and word reccomend that comming off a cycle.
01-24-2005, 07:22 PM
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