For conditioning purposes...

[thephilosopher]

I need to get my 3 mile time down to 22 minutes. Currently, my best time is right around twenty-five and a half minutes. I have roughly 3 months to make it happen. I'm busting my ass and everything is dialed in. I'm getting ~9 hours of sleep a night, eating plenty, and definitely working out. So I was thinking I'd make use of prohormones for the recovery benefits so I can continue training hard. The two goals of this is to maintain bodyweight (180 pounds) and strength levels while lowering my 3 mile time. I've been lifting for seven years but have only been doing the distance running thing for about 4 months.
So the lifts:
Squat: 365
Bench: 235
Deadlift: 435

I've never done any prohormones or steroids before so this would be my first. The cycle that I thought I would do would be 500mg of 1-Test cyp and 500mg of 4AD per week for 10 weeks. Lethargy isn't an issue because my sweet schedule allows me plenty of time to get naps in. Also, reduced sex drive isn't an issue. I'm planning on running 10mg of Nolva throughout the cycle to prevent gyno (had pubescent gynocomastia and the surgery to remove it). Lastly, I'm going to start PCT with clomid 7 days after the last injection.
So the question remains, for the goal that I'm going for: the reduced 3 mile time while maintaining size and strength, would this work?

 

[BodyWizard]

I'm hardly an expert, but it seems to me that M4OHN would be tailor-made, given what you want to accomplish. I'm sure you'd get results from your 1T-cyp/4AD stack, but I'm not the one to say they'd be the results you'd want.

 

[dietrich]

If you are looking strictly at improving your running and you are not concerned at all with getting bigger then I think you are on the wrong path with what you are taking. Stick with mild and pure anabolics. Go with Mohn, 1,4andro dione, nordiol etc. I have worked with a few track athletes and these are the kind of ph's we used to improve their times and stamina. Best of luck.

 

[thephilosopher]

You're right, I'm not really that interested in getting bigger, just in keeping what I have. With that said, since you mentioned that you worked with track athletes, could you lay out what you did and had them use (what amounts, what method of delivery, etc)? I need the results based around a 3 mile run. I appreciate it.

 

[thephilosopher]

Also, I don't care if I do get bigger, I just need to have my 3 mile time reduced to around the 22 minute mark.

 

[thephilosopher]

So, using the recommended prohormones:
Week 1 through 6:
MOHN: 24mg ED split up into 6 doses.
Week 1 through 8:
1,4andro: 100mg ED divided into 2 doses.

How does that look? I have nolva on hand and do I just use standard PCT at the end?

 

[CROWLER]

If you drop 10 lbs wether muscle or fat you will drop your time by about 1/2 a minute a mile. So if you have enough fat to lose you could do that.

Also one day a week work your way up to doing a 10 mile run. One day a week do mile repeats at race pace, and a third day a week do 1/4 mile repeats at 6:50 min per mile pace with a 100 yard walk in between.

 

[dego]

Get a good extract of rhodiola rosea and run at 1g a day. BAC seems to be the most cost effective but you will probably have to run at 1.5g to get the endurance increasing effects. And you will be one happy SOB while on that dosage :lol:

 

[thephilosopher]

If you drop 10 lbs wether muscle or fat you will drop your time by about 1/2 a minute a mile. So if you have enough fat to lose you could do that.

I already have a six-pack going on and plenty of veins. So any weight loss would probably be muscle, but I'll keep that in mind if it comes down to the wire.

Also one day a week work your way up to doing a 10 mile run. One day a week do mile repeats at race pace, and a third day a week do 1/4 mile repeats at 6:50 min per mile pace with a 100 yard walk in between.

Is there any particular number of mile repeats I should do at race pace? And how many quarter mile repeats should I work up to?