PCT options post-surgery
- 01-12-2005, 03:52 PM
PCT options post-surgery
I'm wondering how I should handle my PCT, given that I'll be having minor surgery right in the middle of it. The details:
I'm in the last days of a 5-week cycle (150mg 4AD + 150mg 4OHT transdermal daily, + 10mg M1T oral daily in weeks 3 & 4).
Gonna start my PCT tomorrow (front-load clomid, run it with nolva for a week or 2 to get things moving, then drop to just nolva at standard dosing for a total of 4 weeks).
However- I just found out I need to go in for a minor surgery 8 days into my PCT (umbilical hernia). It's day surgery, in and out in a few hours, quite a bit more anethesia then local but not totally out. I'll be on Vicodin, etc., as needed for a few weeks after that.
SO... my questions:
- do you think it is necessary I warn the surgeon or anthesiologist I just got off prohormones and am on Nolva and Clomid?
- should I interupt the PCT for the surgery and the first few weeks of recovery... OR just go ahead and do my PCT as scheduled?
(I'm not going to run another cycle until at least April, if that matters.)
I don't *think* PCT will be a problem - the only chems the surgeon told me to stay away in the days before the surgery were aspirin and other blood thinners, and I can't find any documentation that clomid or nolva have this effect...
On the other hand, I imagine the surgeon doesn't have much experience with -men- on either chem... so I thought I'd ask you guys.
Thanks in advance.
- 01-12-2005, 04:59 PM
Yes, very necessary to tell them. They are doctors they aren't the police.
- 01-12-2005, 08:33 PM
absolutely. Though you might have to explain things a bit, it is nec. to make sure the meds the give you won't interact with the ones you are taking.
If they haven't already, they will ask about a hundred times if you are taking any medications- your answer is YES
01-12-2005, 10:28 PM
Dont worry its always best to tell them but hormones play absolutley no part in anaestesia.
I had surgey on cycle and on pct before no problem.
Only thing you have to find out is what meds they are going to give you after and then see if it affects the nolva or clomid.
01-13-2005, 10:02 AM
He is not on anymore but he might have to explain why he is taking clomid or nolva. You're right about the hormone part to a degree. Changes in blood pressure caused by M1T or liver and kidney value changes though can be important.Originally Posted by BryanM
His doctors, not his own research, are better judges of whether or not his PCT will interfere with the meds they give him during and after surgery.
01-13-2005, 05:52 PM
01-14-2005, 03:06 AM
Thanks for everyone's input!
One thing is clear to be I've got to be honest with the surgeon.
Not so clear are which option I should pick for timing of the chems themselves. As I see it I could:
1) Run the cycle a few days longer - say until 3 days before the surgery - and then wait to start PCT until a week or so after the surgery.
2) Start the PCT big time now, as planned, then stop a few days before the surgery, take a break until a few days after, and then resume.
3) Start the PCT now as planned, and just continue it through the surgery period. (The "Dude, you're overthinking the problem" option.)
I'm gonna lose some gains anyway since I won't be able to hit the gym for 2 to 4 weeks...
Still, right now I'm leaning toward option 2. Any reason why I shouldn't stop and start a PCT like that? Estrogen Rebound? (No, not the new WNBA team!)
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