Four weeks into my first Cycle
- 08-13-2013, 06:00 PM
- 08-13-2013, 06:02 PM
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08-13-2013, 06:20 PM
08-14-2013, 09:36 AM
08-14-2013, 10:02 AM
So no I'm not a punk. I just despise ignorance and arrogance (or stupidity and pride, whatever set of words you like better)
Why not zoidberg?
08-14-2013, 11:29 AM
08-14-2013, 11:48 AM
Why not zoidberg?
08-14-2013, 02:07 PM
You have never run an injectable cycle but presume to call someone names because he doesn't know what some ****ty ass supplement that is supposedly works to raise natural levels lol. I would never run any OTC pct after running test erase daa none of that bull **** but to each his own. I also see you are only repeating all the bull **** you read other parrots preach but have no real experience yourself. You do know there are many that don't even use serms or any pct right? There is no real evidence that any of this serm or that OTC supp works right? It's all dependent on the person and how your body responds. Everyone is different and for you to bust on someone that has actually cycled when you yourself have never touched is stupid. Until you have actually run something stop acting like you know **** about it cause someone else said something and your just repeating it. And btw there is a well known vet on here that swears pct is bull **** and not needed and that your hpta will start on its own. Also most of the guys in the 70's- 90's never pct any cycle.
08-14-2013, 02:10 PM
OK guys, looking into purchasing Erase and some Daa.
Question, along with the Clomid, are all 3 taken 2 weeks after last shot for pct? or do you take on cycle?
08-14-2013, 02:12 PM
If your pinning test then yes, start PCT on day 14. If running any thing legal or oral only start PCT the next day.
08-14-2013, 02:22 PM
08-14-2013, 02:36 PM
Agreed on Aromasin. Adex didn't help me at all at higher doses even with Test-only.
Can we all be friends again?
There's a lot to learn around here.
And there's a lot of goofing and clowning too....
But we can all share what works/what doesn't/AND if we happen to lurk and read a lot, we can repeat what some Vet's have graciously shared with us.
08-14-2013, 02:40 PM
08-14-2013, 03:28 PM
08-14-2013, 03:48 PM
08-14-2013, 03:54 PM
08-14-2013, 04:27 PM
Aromasin? I'm interested in this stuff. Adex didn't do **** for me at high doses either and I now have sensitive puffy nipples.
08-14-2013, 05:00 PM
08-14-2013, 07:10 PM
Thanks Matthersby for the rep. I am learning here, even if I am a bit we todd did :-). will know better for next time. Hindsight is 20 20. Should of gotten more informed before I jumped into this, but here I am
08-14-2013, 07:11 PM
08-14-2013, 07:22 PM
08-14-2013, 07:23 PM
08-14-2013, 07:27 PM
The only thing I learn from the 'this' cycle is to be way more prepared for the next more advanced one..... Maybe too prepared sometimes.....
08-14-2013, 07:50 PM
Thanks Macdady, peace buddy
smshannon001, still a bit confused as to what to add to the Clomid. alot of people recomend Daa and Erase. haven't had a whole lot of time lately to research. Worked a couple 12 hour days
08-14-2013, 07:54 PM
Clomid a AI and 1 or 2 different test boosters
Type in cloned pct into the search bar on the forum
Why not zoidberg?
08-14-2013, 08:09 PM
Some will say 2 serms are useless I strongly disagree. Best pct in the book if you ask me. Everyone is different but this to me has always been the best. Erase is fine to run. But most guys have said and will tell u it's a little weak to be running with test even at 4 caps a day.
08-14-2013, 08:26 PM
Clomid and nolva or torem and Nova are a good pct because they each act in a different positive way... I'd run aromasin not erase if he could get it
Why not zoidberg?
08-14-2013, 09:21 PM
Aromasin is a bit much in pct, **** it was too much for me at 750mg of test lol. with aromasins short active life it should be dosed ED but dosing ED when you have minimal amounts of test in your system is overkill big time. Get erase pro, it a mild AI which IMO is perfect for pct. it also has an anti cortisol effect which is beneficial in pct. erase on cycle? No. During pct? Yes.
08-15-2013, 05:01 AM
IMO if you can't get nolva or another serm run the clomid higher (ie 100/100/50/50 instrad of 100/50/50/25) because it binds weakly to E receptors compared to nolva... Just watch for mood swings and blurry vision
Also whichever AI you go with (erase, adex,aromasin,formestane,etc) taper off the last 2 weeks of dosing (ESP if you don't have nolva) to help prevent rebound
Clomid and DAA should be enough to restart your hpta, the estro sides of your cycle are my concern for your pct if you can't get other research chems
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