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    If your pinning test then yes, start PCT on day 14. If running any thing legal or oral only start PCT the next day.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hildiman View Post
    OK guys, looking into purchasing Erase and some Daa.
    Question, along with the Clomid, are all 3 taken 2 weeks after last shot for pct? or do you take on cycle?

    James H
    2 weeks after last shot. And I would look into aromasin rather than erase for your AI
    Why not zoidberg?

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    Agreed on Aromasin. Adex didn't help me at all at higher doses even with Test-only.
    Can we all be friends again?
    There's a lot to learn around here.
    And there's a lot of goofing and clowning too....
    But we can all share what works/what doesn't/AND if we happen to lurk and read a lot, we can repeat what some Vet's have graciously shared with us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthersby View Post
    Agreed on Aromasin. Adex didn't help me at all at higher doses even with Test-only.
    Can we all be friends again?
    There's a lot to learn around here.
    And there's a lot of goofing and clowning too....
    But we can all share what works/what doesn't/AND if we happen to lurk and read a lot, we can repeat what some Vet's have graciously shared with us.
    Lol my ass is calloused, it can take a good chewing. Something tells me he still doesn't like me though lol... oh well
    Why not zoidberg?

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    Quote Originally Posted by macdady View Post

    Lol my ass is calloused, it can take a good chewing. Something tells me he still doesn't like me though lol... oh well
    To be honest I don't like you or dislike you. I'm just setting you straight is all. Do a couple cycles learn from experience then you have a right to flame. Until then shut the **** up I see you live in deltona? I live very close maybe you can show me how to train

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigShadow View Post
    To be honest I don't like you or dislike you. I'm just setting you straight is all. Do a couple cycles learn from experience then you have a right to flame. Until then shut the **** up I see you live in deltona? I live very close maybe you can show me how to train
    Lol I'll take my lumps. I forgot I put where I live haha maybe I should take that down before people find me
    So you live in Florida the terrible huh? How you liking the summer so far? Lol
    Why not zoidberg?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigShadow View Post
    To be honest I don't like you or dislike you. I'm just setting you straight is all. Do a couple cycles learn from experience then you have a right to flame. Until then shut the **** up I see you live in deltona? I live very close maybe you can show me how to train
    Oh I did pin once lol but that was just to check my source (it was TNE and I did it 2 days before I started pct) that **** has me doing a nasty pimp lean right now haha... something tells me I won't be using it pre work out very often haha
    Why not zoidberg?

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    Aromasin? I'm interested in this stuff. Adex didn't do **** for me at high doses either and I now have sensitive puffy nipples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zac Speed View Post
    Aromasin? I'm interested in this stuff. Adex didn't do **** for me at high doses either and I now have sensitive puffy nipples.
    Yep. If estradiol is your culprit adex wont do too much. I literally had to use Torem on cycle to get the pain, itchiness and puffiness at bay. I'm going to have caber or prami on hand too. Cover all my bases....

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    Thanks Matthersby for the rep. I am learning here, even if I am a bit we todd did :-). will know better for next time. Hindsight is 20 20. Should of gotten more informed before I jumped into this, but here I am

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    Quote Originally Posted by hildiman View Post
    Thanks Matthersby for the rep. I am learning here, even if I am a bit we todd did :-). will know better for next time. Hindsight is 20 20. Should of gotten more informed before I jumped into this, but here I am
    Reps for a easy goingness lol
    Why not zoidberg?

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    The love is all around....

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    Quote Originally Posted by hildiman View Post
    Thanks Matthersby for the rep. I am learning here, even if I am a bit we todd did :-). will know better for next time. Hindsight is 20 20. Should of gotten more informed before I jumped into this, but here I am
    Now that you've been given advice and seen a few opinions, have you decided on a final PCT plan?
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    The only thing I learn from the 'this' cycle is to be way more prepared for the next more advanced one..... Maybe too prepared sometimes.....

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    Thanks Macdady, peace buddy
    smshannon001, still a bit confused as to what to add to the Clomid. alot of people recomend Daa and Erase. haven't had a whole lot of time lately to research. Worked a couple 12 hour days

    James H

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    Clomid a AI and 1 or 2 different test boosters
    Type in cloned pct into the search bar on the forum
    Why not zoidberg?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hildiman View Post
    Thanks Macdady, peace buddy
    smshannon001, still a bit confused as to what to add to the Clomid. alot of people recomend Daa and Erase. haven't had a whole lot of time lately to research. Worked a couple 12 hour days

    James H
    My suggestion and everyone has his own idea. But erase and other OTC supps are useless in a long test cycle. This is what I would run and almost always run unless I'm running tren.
    Clomid 150-4days/100/100/50
    Nolva. 20/20/20/20
    Some will say 2 serms are useless I strongly disagree. Best pct in the book if you ask me. Everyone is different but this to me has always been the best. Erase is fine to run. But most guys have said and will tell u it's a little weak to be running with test even at 4 caps a day.

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    Clomid and nolva or torem and Nova are a good pct because they each act in a different positive way... I'd run aromasin not erase if he could get it
    Why not zoidberg?

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    Aromasin is a bit much in pct, **** it was too much for me at 750mg of test lol. with aromasins short active life it should be dosed ED but dosing ED when you have minimal amounts of test in your system is overkill big time. Get erase pro, it a mild AI which IMO is perfect for pct. it also has an anti cortisol effect which is beneficial in pct. erase on cycle? No. During pct? Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hildiman View Post
    Thanks Macdady, peace buddy
    smshannon001, still a bit confused as to what to add to the Clomid. alot of people recomend Daa and Erase. haven't had a whole lot of time lately to research. Worked a couple 12 hour days

    James H
    I guess it depends on what you can get for pct..

    IMO if you can't get nolva or another serm run the clomid higher (ie 100/100/50/50 instrad of 100/50/50/25) because it binds weakly to E receptors compared to nolva... Just watch for mood swings and blurry vision

    Also whichever AI you go with (erase, adex,aromasin,formestane,etc) taper off the last 2 weeks of dosing (ESP if you don't have nolva) to help prevent rebound

    Clomid and DAA should be enough to restart your hpta, the estro sides of your cycle are my concern for your pct if you can't get other research chems
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    Quote Originally Posted by smshannon001 View Post

    I guess it depends on what you can get for pct..

    IMO if you can't get nolva or another serm run the clomid higher (ie 100/100/50/50 instrad of 100/50/50/25) because it binds weakly to E receptors compared to nolva... Just watch for mood swings and blurry vision

    Also whichever AI you go with (erase, adex,aromasin,formestane,etc) taper off the last 2 weeks of dosing (ESP if you don't have nolva) to help prevent rebound

    Clomid and DAA should be enough to restart your hpta, the estro sides of your cycle are my concern for your pct if you can't get other research chems
    Saturation dose for clomid is only 50mg so there's really not much need to go higher. I usually hit 150 for the first three days then drop to 50 for the duration of pct. No need to taper erase or aromasin as they are both suicidal inhibitors and as such you can not get rebound. Adex, letro etc etc however are not suicidal and have to be tapered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000 View Post
    Saturation dose for clomid is only 50mg so there's really not much need to go higher. I usually hit 150 for the first three days then drop to 50 for the duration of pct. No need to taper erase or aromasin as they are both suicidal inhibitors and as such you can not get rebound. Adex, letro etc etc however are not suicidal and have to be tapered.
    Curse you lol I was gonna say that about erase and aromasin and erase
    Why not zoidberg?

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    OK I ordered Erase Pro and DAA, looking into getting some Nolvadex, it's very pricy. I have to get it from a Canadian Supplier as I'm sure it wouldn't make it across the border. If I can't get the Nolva, will have to hope for the best with Clomid, DAA and Erase Pro.
    Happy with results at the gym. I'm almost a week off the Dbol now. Thought I felt stronger when I was on the Dbol. What I can lift is still up from before, but I'm not sure I feel anything to dramatic with the test E. is this normal?

    James H

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    How long you been on test for? How long on dbol?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000 View Post

    Saturation dose for clomid is only 50mg so there's really not much need to go higher. I usually hit 150 for the first three days then drop to 50 for the duration of pct. No need to taper erase or aromasin as they are both suicidal inhibitors and as such you can not get rebound. Adex, letro etc etc however are not suicidal and have to be tapered.
    You are correct.
    Suicidal- no taper
    Competitive- taper

    But what I meant was that I usually taper (at least the last weeks dose) regardless of what type of AI it is. I know we taper the competitive AI to prevent rebound, but I personally do not know how long it takes the body to create more aromatase enzyme or reintroduce it ( I'm guessing its a slow process which is why we don't taper suicidal AIs) BUT since I don't know, yet, how long it takes to make more aromatase, I taper them.
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    Hello
    OK, would really appreciate some feedback. Thoughts, suggestions, etc... not to much criticism :-)
    am 6 weeks into my first cycle. 50 mgs Dbol first 4 weeks, 500 test e 1 to 10 weeks.
    I'm in week #6. No noticable sides yet.
    Have ordered Aromasin and Nolvadex. Just saw they cleared Canada customs so should receive next few days.

    So I have Clomid, and Nolvadex for PCT. I also purchased a bottle of Erase Pro.
    I plan on taking the Aromasin asap till the end of my cycle.
    Do I stop the Aromasin around the same time I begin the Clomid?

    also, Would it be a good idea to take Erase Pro along with the Clomid and Nolvadex? Do I wait till i'm into the PCT before I start with the erase?

    Very new to this but have learned alot. Will be much better prepared next time.

    Any help would be appreciated

    James

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