Epi/Stano or SD/Stano or neither? Have concerns.
- 07-01-2013, 09:44 AM
- 07-01-2013, 09:53 AM
Since honeymoon is coming, I highly advise a well-thought out PCT.
A PCT that brings increased libido would be on order, since many times the first few weeks into PCT are usually a low point for sex drive.
I advise having:
-AI (Whichever you prefer)
-Cialis (THIS IS A MUST) or you can get Jack-Rabbits (Combo of Cia+Via)
-Cortisol Control (This TOO is a must)
07-01-2013, 12:15 PM
Nolva: 40/40/20/20/0/0 (caps are dosed at 20mg)
Anabeta Elite: 4/4/4/4/4/4
Erase Pro: 0/0/1/1/1/1
This will bring me to September 16 (2 months before my wedding date). I will take the following 4 weeks off from everything but staple supps, and then from October 14 - November 11 I will run another cycle of ABE/EP/Intimidate. I've never run Clomid, and don't really want to this time either because I've read it can make you moody, and other than the Epi, I'd rather not mess with anything I don't have previous experience with. Thoughts?
07-01-2013, 03:10 PM
You'll be fine with that I'm sure.
What are your T levels now? Is your libido doing well? If I was 100% on libido and had T-level within a solid, healthy range (say 500+), then I'd go for the cycle. Make it short. Make it effective. Otherwise, I wouldn't do the cycle since I'd be getting married relatively soon after.
Granted, I practiced abstinence until I got married. So everyone is different I guess.
07-01-2013, 05:15 PM
07-01-2013, 05:34 PM
07-01-2013, 06:00 PM
07-01-2013, 10:35 PM
It seems some have said the Stano is not worth it. What would be the advantage of Stano? I'll admit its a compound I now very little about.
07-02-2013, 12:34 AM
07-02-2013, 04:17 AM
epistane at 30/40/40/50/50 .
Stano at 600/600/600/800/800
I was bulking even tho epistane is a "cutting" steroid. I wanted to retain all gains I made. Didn't really count calories as i've been bulking for football so I kind of know how much I need to eat to gain weight. I literally had every side...back pumps which taurine fixed, loss of libido, and lethargy which stano fixed. I had some shedding from stano I think, and a gyno flare up which stopped as soon as I started clomid. I didn't notice my mood at all though.
went from 208-220 and I look leaner than before SO i want to *hope* that it's essentially pure lbm
07-02-2013, 11:24 AM
07-02-2013, 11:28 AM
Also - fire rescue - stano for me will be used to counter any lethargy I might experience. Libido is a negligible impact for me right now, so I'm ok with it or without it for the time being. I know with SD I get terrible lethargy, and I don't want to take that chance with Epi. Also, stano has a great hardening effect on my muscles.
07-02-2013, 11:37 AM
07-02-2013, 08:31 PM
I'm on day 5 of PCT and am still weighing 220...so i dont want to be premature and say i've kept everything. BUT epi is a very dry compound and most users keep a large portion of gains.
I pr'd today btw, hit 335 for 5 on bench, last tuesday I hit 4. so it's looking good that i'll keep most gains
07-02-2013, 09:22 PM
07-10-2013, 01:42 PM
Today is day 3 of Epi @ 40mg and Stano @ 800mg. Excited to see where the rest of the cycle goes! Started cycle at 180lbs. Was eating anywhere from 3500-4000 calories a day before starting the cycle, have gradually cut it down to a fairly strict 2700. Maintenance cals for me would be 2962 using my BMR + Harris Benedict so Im thinking I should see decent results, especially once the epi kicks in in a couple of weeks.
07-17-2013, 04:44 PM
So, on day 3 of my cycle I was an idiot and hurt my shoulder by trying to go too heavy. Haven't worked out since last Friday, but did not stop the cycle because A) I wouldn't be able to restart it in time before the wedding and B) I am hoping my shoulder will be healed enough by next week to get back into at least a light workout routine. Blah.
07-17-2013, 07:23 PM
07-18-2013, 05:25 PM
07-23-2013, 12:12 PM
Back on track as of yesterday...Did chest/tris. Shoulder was fine on Bench and Incline, had to skip decline though. Strength actually seemed to be up a bit, but I'm not taking any chances. Gonna take it easy for the next two weeks and be very very careful on shoulder days. Upping my cardio in both intensity and volume. Epi should be kicking in any day now
07-23-2013, 01:57 PM
I hate that it is the most inconsistent steroid to ever hit the market because it really is an extreme hit or miss. Lots of people love it, however I had to take 50mg/day just to feel it.
07-23-2013, 02:46 PM
Oh I'm fairly confident I'll respond well to it. At least, I'm optimistic about it. Today is only day 15, and considering I took off days 6-14 completely from working out, it may already have kicked in and I just haven't been able to tell. Today is leg day so if its kicked in already, I'll be able to tell. But I've heard it doesn't kick in until week 3, so I'm not too worried. Yet.
07-29-2013, 08:05 PM
07-29-2013, 10:00 PM
08-06-2013, 09:23 PM
Rphash is right. Start it after the stano. I'm already a week into my pct. Not lost any strength gains yet.
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