Second Cycle advice.

[gnvch]

Hello, First, sorry for mistakes, English is not my native language.

I'm 23 years old, I train about 4,5+ years and I wanted push my limits a little, cuz I felt I was kinda stagnated for a long time. My knowledge about training/diet is really good. So I decided to try some PHs first. I read a lot about 1st cycles, that I decided choose "RPN HAVOC"

My cycle looked like this

pre-Cycle: liv52, milk thistle, hawthorn berries + vitamins, joint supp etc.

Cycle: Havoc, liv52, milk thistle, hawthorn berries, NAC + vitamins, joint supp etc.

PCT: liv52, milk thistle, hawthorn berries, NAC, DAA, Tamoxifen + vitamins, joint supp etc.and

some stats after that:

My weight has increased by 5,8kg. My strength was enormous. I felt really great. My arms size (biceps/triceps) has increased by 1,5cm. My waist about 0,25cm.When I looked into mirror, It seemed to me, that abs definition was better, less bodyfat%, bigger deltoids, bis, tris! I recommend Havoc

Now, I have a question. I was thinking about 2nd cycle this autumn/winter. Would you guys recommend me something? My goal is gain lean mass. I was thinking about Hellarol or p-mag or something. But really dont know what. Would you guys gimme any advices what to do next?

 

[MuscleJ]

First off your English is just fine!! Almost better than natives. Second, thank you for not just asking a question and not supplying details about yourself. Havoc worked good for you why not just add something to a havoc cycle since your familiar with it. I wish I can help more about PH advice but I have more knowledge about AAS (injectables). Good luck brother there are very smart people here to help you out.

 

[maybe0123]

I took havoc for my first cycle and it was great, 2nd cycle was sdmz2 which was also really good

 

[FL3X MAGNUM]

Halo and pmag are not that great of a choice for a second cycle imo.
You're not going to see results better than your first cycle.
I would consider creating a stack to have an 8 week mass building cycle.

 

[mw1]

Hdrol or Dzine would be great for a second cycle

 

[gnvch]

Hey,

Helladrol is not available anymore from site I wanted to buy it. So i need something else. Thinking about Pro-Halo (H-Drol), Pro-SD (Superdrol), But I also heard good things about Xtreme Mass (SD+LMG) or M1T. Rly cant decide. What would fit into my 2nd cycle?

 

[hvactech]

Hey,

Helladrol is not available anymore from site I wanted to buy it. So i need something else. Thinking about Pro-Halo (H-Drol), Pro-SD (Superdrol), But I also heard good things about Xtreme Mass (SD+LMG) or M1T. Rly cant decide. What would fit into my 2nd cycle?

Are you serious?

 

[gnvch]

Great answer, rly helpful... Yes, Im serious. After firt succesfull cycle need advice about 2nd @Winter/spring time.

 

[hvactech]

Why would you consider superdrol and M1T as a second

 

[gnvch]

Ye sorry. I just thought that after 5 years 100% training and diet + after 1 ph cycle, it should be OK. But ye, I should consider hdrol,pmag,ment,m40hn, maybe Mdien....

 

[kenpoengineer]

I think the point being made is that picking such harsh methyls such as SD are not a good idea for a second cycle. Lack of cycle experience leads to serious health issues. Right?

 

[justmechillin]

I took havoc for my first cycle and it was great, 2nd cycle was sdmz2 which was also really good

I did these and also agree 100%. Bump up dose of Havoc or run SDMZ.