Test suspension, suss, deca course

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  1. Test suspension, suss, deca course


    Hi guys

    I'm a long term reader first time posting
    I've done a couple courses over the years only a test susp, testoviron and dbol courses and am looking into doing a dbol test susp,suss an deca course over 8wks and wondering some of your thoughts with an AI and pct Im 29yr 5.8 75kg eat clean and have been training for 8 years I have a bit of a plan going off other threads but would like some good opinions on what has worked for others in the past? before making a decision on what course to do next?

    Cheers


  2. I'd scratch the deca, takes too long to kick in for an 8 week cycle. Just go with the Sust, test suspension and dbol. Arimidex .5mg EOD would b good. What's your pct?

  3. Hi
    Do you suggest running the course longer or just stick to not having the deca, I have been offered some tren a if that's worth throwing in? I have nolva and clomid, I was thinking nolva 20/20/20/20 and clomid 100/100/50/50 I also can get some hcg as well if I wanted but dont know a lot about it. The 2nd time i run a course I got signs of gyno which I had when I was younger so may be prone to it just wondering your thoughts on letro on cycle to make sure it stays at bay. I was using 0.25 adex last time and still had signs of it? Cheers
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  4. Letro on cycle may b overkill. If .5mg of adex EOD doesn't work then I'd try Letro. I wouldn't use deca period, too many sides not worth it IMO.

    I'd do this:

    Weeks 1-12 Sust 500mg
    Weeks 1-6 dbol 50mg ED
    Weeks 1-16 Arimidex .5mg EOD
    Maybe just use the test suspension on workout days only preworkout.

  5. Yeah ok cheers, I did plan on using the test susp as a pre workout on work out days, I've got some testoviron left from my last cycle if that's worth putting in there, just after a cycle that will bulk me up with low sides, if I was to need the letro on cycle what would you recommend? as gyno scares the **** out of me, I do have signs of gyno from the last course a little not much just puffiness when it hot, but have read that letro can help reverse it a little? as this was only 6months ago the last course.

  6. I would start at .625mg of Letro EOD and go up from there if u have to. Yeah u can throw in the testoviron too if you'd like.

  7. Yeah thanks...And drop the adex or keep it at a low dose through to 16wks? And how much testoviron a wk for the 12 wks?
    And was that pct fine? that is what I used on the last cycle...

  8. Quote Originally Posted by moezii View Post
    Yeah thanks...And drop the adex or keep it at a low dose through to 16wks? And how much testoviron a wk for the 12 wks?
    And was that pct fine? that is what I used on the last cycle...
    I'd drop the adex if u have to use Letro. The proviron I'd run 50mg ED. Did your pct work fine last time? I prefer to use one SERM along with an AI, test booster and a cortisol inhibitor.

    Personally I'd do this:

    Clomid 100/50/50/25
    Aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5
    DAA 3/3/3/3
    Reduce Xt ( recommended dose)

  9. Am thinking for second cycle dbol deca and tren, swapping test with tren from first cycle, what you reckon?

  10. Quote Originally Posted by maffheeley View Post
    Am thinking for second cycle dbol deca and tren, swapping test with tren from first cycle, what you reckon?
    Always need test. How about test, tren and dbol? Way better.

  11. Sounds good what dosages, was on 75mg dbol ed started with 1.5 ml each week with deca and test for 4 week then started jabbin twice a week at 0.75ml Monday Thursday then at week 6 upped it to 1 ml of each twice a week

  12. Hold on ok what's the doses in milligrams?

  13. I ant a clue mate I've always worked in mls ha al try find out

  14. Quote Originally Posted by maffheeley View Post
    I ant a clue mate I've always worked in mls ha al try find out
    Its on the vials

  15. Seen mate 300 mg/ml

  16. Quote Originally Posted by maffheeley View Post
    Seen mate 300 mg/ml
    So you're at 600mg of test and 600mg of deca a week? R u still on dbol?

  17. No I've finished all that mate just getting some more today. Dbol was for 6 week Nd juice was for 10 but cause I bumped doses up i finished after 8 week. Gonna go for tren test and dbol at these measures, 1 ml test 1 ml tren Monday Thursday, (not sure if there same measures in mg) and 100 mg dbol every day again for 6 weeks

  18. Quote Originally Posted by maffheeley View Post
    No I've finished all that mate just getting some more today. Dbol was for 6 week Nd juice was for 10 but cause I bumped doses up i finished after 8 week. Gonna go for tren test and dbol at these measures, 1 ml test 1 ml tren Monday Thursday, (not sure if there same measures in mg) and 100 mg dbol every day again for 6 weeks
    Keep the tren dose higher then test, tren beats test to the receptor so some of that test would b wasted. I assume you're doing short ester like prop and ace right? You'll need to pin EOD its better that to avoid side effects from fluctuating blood levels.

  19. I intended in starting on lower dosages of tren for first couple weeks then up it later, what's this short ester ? And what do you mean about pinning every other day would Monday thurs not do

  20. Quote Originally Posted by maffheeley View Post
    I intended in starting on lower dosages of tren for first couple weeks then up it later, what's this short ester ? And what do you mean about pinning every other day would Monday thurs not do
    I mean like test propionate and tren acetate. These half to n injected EOD cuz of their short ester lifes which r only 2-3 days. If you're using test enanthate and tren enanthate then Mon and Thur injections r fine.

  21. Do you have to do the short esters?

  22. Quote Originally Posted by maffheeley View Post
    Do you have to do the short esters?
    Naw u don't but if you're using long esters then they should n at least for 12 weeks since they take much longer to fully kick in.

  23. I was tempted with test 400 but al sick to test e, not sure what the tren is but al find out tonight. Would it be orate wih 8 to 10 week cycle ?

  24. Quote Originally Posted by maffheeley View Post
    I was tempted with test 400 but al sick to test e, not sure what the tren is but al find out tonight. Would it be orate wih 8 to 10 week cycle ?
    10 weeks is best if u can't go longer. How long r u running dbol cuz 100mg ED is pretty high?

  25. Gonna look to run dbol for 6 week same as first cycle just up 25 mg. would test 400 be crazy with tren if its only my second cycle, a know am been risky running tren on second cycle like

  26. Quote Originally Posted by maffheeley View Post
    Gonna look to run dbol for 6 week same as first cycle just up 25 mg. would test 400 be crazy with tren if its only my second cycle, a know am been risky running tren on second cycle like
    You don't need tren yet slow down big guy

  27. A know av been told its risky with only having one cycle under my belt ha

  28. Quote Originally Posted by maffheeley View Post
    A know av been told its risky with only having one cycle under my belt ha
    Yeah lol at least go low bro. I'd keep the test low around 200mg, tren blows test out of the water when it comes to gains. 300-400mg of tren plus dbol and you'll blow the f*ck up. I think 100mg of dbol is excessive though, 75mg is plenty.

  29. Am gonna go for it ha am happy with gains from first cycle, reckon al chill abit after this cycle. So test 400 be okay or stick to test e ? Am only thinking dbol 100mg as first cycle I was packing 75

  30. Quote Originally Posted by maffheeley View Post
    Am gonna go for it ha am happy with gains from first cycle, reckon al chill abit after this cycle. So test 400 be okay or stick to test e ? Am only thinking dbol 100mg as first cycle I was packing 75
    U went too high your first cycle but oh well u can't go back now lol. I'd go with test e, I don't like test blends at all.

  31. Rate am going with tren a and test e, not bothering with dbol plan is to start wi 0.5 ml tren and 1.5 ml test for first couple of week then bump tren up to 1 ml. Il let you know how I get on !

  32. Quote Originally Posted by maffheeley View Post
    Rate am going with tren a and test e, not bothering with dbol plan is to start wi 0.5 ml tren and 1.5 ml test for first couple of week then bump tren up to 1 ml. Il let you know how I get on !
    How much tren and test a week?

  33. Did 0.5 tren and 1.5 test

  34. A didn't want to go higher with train cause its only second cycle and wasn't hitting mega high doses on first cycle, thought I'd play it careful first few weeks. On bright side jabbin glute is way better than Quads!

  35. Quote Originally Posted by maffheeley View Post
    Did 0.5 tren and 1.5 test
    Is this weekly? Clarify for me, how many mgs a week?

  36. Soo that's 450mg test e and 50mg tren al be upping test to 600mg and tren to 100mg after couple weeks though

  37. My bad 100 mg tren a week and 900mg test

  38. That first post was per jab

  39. Quote Originally Posted by maffheeley View Post
    My bad 100 mg tren a week and 900mg test
    I'd definitely bump the tren a lil higher, maybe drop the test down some.

  40. By how much? A didn't want to go mad with tren initially didn't know how my body would take it
  

  
 

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