[nelson44bears]

If you have ever used real tren you will be very disappointed. I only dosed at 60mg though so maybe that's why. Would not run again. Lots of stuff out there that is a beteter bang for your buck.

Considering that Tren is probably one of the most powerful AAS of all time, anything legal will disappoint lol

[warbird01]

Considering that Tren is probably one of the most powerful AAS of all time, anything legal will disappoint lol

They were touting it is a oral tren equivalent when it first came out though.

[jbryand101b]

They were touting it is a oral tren equivalent when it first came out though.

Well it is technically. You take it orrally and trenbolone is the target

[nelson44bears]

Well it is technically. You take it orrally and trenbolone is the target

It is still deeply troubling to me that no one knows the rate of conversion to actual Tren. Or at least a rough estimate. And a question (although it may be a stupid one) I have is might trendione be active somewhat on its own? Because realistically, its unlikely that it converts to Tren at any beneficial rate. I read a study about Tren degradation in the body. Some of the trenbolone acetate will actually degrade to trendione and another metabolite (the name eludes me). It then said that less than 1.5% of the trendione converted back to active trenbolone. This is a pretty disappointing number...

[jbryand101b]

It is impossible to estimate a conversion rate in pro hormones in vivo.

Conversion isn't a one way process either

[Veritatis]

Got with Trenazone or dienazone, but are already active and you don't need to pop 100 pills

[nelson44bears]

Got with Trenazone or dienazone, but are already active and you don't need to pop 100 pills

Dienolone is good but pales in comparison to real trenbolone. Which is why some people are seeing better results from trendione (PH to Tren) than with active dienolone (trenazone/dienazone)