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Review My 1ad, 4ad cycle please

jeremiah1710

jeremiah1710

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This is a cycle I have been planning for a while,,,my question is on the 1ad, 4ad dose. Both are oral. This is my first cyle. I'm 29, 5,11'' 184lbs. Have been training on/off for years. Have completed BFL twice. So as for the 1ad,4ad mg dosages, are they too high or too weak for me. Im particularly concerned about the 1ad dose. I have read that 300 is enough, while at other times 600 seems to be the optimal dose.

1AD 600 ed 600 ed 600 ed 600 ed 600 ed 5weeks each
4AD 800 ed 800 ed 800ed 800ed 1000ed
 
jeremiah1710 said:
This is a cycle I have been planning for a while,,,my question is on the 1ad, 4ad dose. Both are oral. This is my first cyle. I'm 29, 5,11'' 184lbs. Have been training on/off for years. Have completed BFL twice. So as for the 1ad,4ad mg dosages, are they too high or too weak for me. Im particularly concerned about the 1ad dose. I have read that 300 is enough, while at other times 600 seems to be the optimal dose.

1AD 600 ed 600 ed 600 ed 600 ed 600 ed 5weeks each
4AD 800 ed 800 ed 800ed 800ed 1000ed
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i personally saw significant gains for 2-2.5 weeks @ 300mg 1-ad, after which i bumped it up to 600mg. i'm pretty experienced although my receptors were clean. also at that dosage you can use 600mg 4-ad.

everyone's different. this being your first cycle, you're gonna see gains any way you slice it. optimizing the ratio for maximum side abatement w/o excessive bloat is the only tricky part.
 
Start 1-ad at 400mg and 4-ad at 600 mg then bump it up after a week or so. My very first cycle was 1-ad/4-ad and had great results. Good luck
 
Both guys give good answers. Being your first cycle you will see optimal results. The key is diet, and training. If those are dialed in then androgens come as a boost.

What are you doing for pct?
 
no worries there, ive got nolva on hand and I will be doing 5 weeks of a 6,7 0x0 blend (basically metacort). But to confirm my question, if i go 300 1ad/600 4ad, if i bumb the 1ad up to say 400, what would be optimal for the 4ad? Appreciate all your imput guys. rock on

ryansm said:
Both guys give good answers. Being your first cycle you will see optimal results. The key is diet, and training. If those are dialed in then androgens come as a boost.

What are you doing for pct?
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i wouldnt go higher than 600 4ad if this is your first cycle, your receptors are clean and it isnt necessary unless you are a hard gainer, my first 4ad cycle i didnt go hgiher than 400 and achieved great results. (althoguh i was running it with 1t and mohn, so take my advice with a grain of salt) but seriosuly 600 should be fine
 
There's no magic ratio that will somehow make or break the cycle. Don't sweat the numbers as they all look fine. The main concern will be how much bloat you'll be willing to live with from the 4AD and how much lethargy you can take from the 1AD..adjust the dose according to preference.
 
taking from all that has been said, i will go with something like this (depending on how I feel, respond) for 5 weeker
1ad, 300, 400, 500, 600, 600,
4ad, 600, 600, 600, 600, 600
I'm also taking ED (2gms Vit C, 1gm ala, 1daily, 3gms Flax, 3gms Oliveoil, 1 cal,mag,zinc tab)
 
with a 5 wk cycle you can adjust after week 2. I noticed gains after the first week, so by the time the second is over you can adjust your doses. just give it a week after adjusting for it to take affect. add 1ad if your too bloated add 4ad if you dont mind the bloat and want more size, or subtract the one thats causing problems. I'm a hard gainer and went with 900mg 1ad and 600 4ad for 2 1/2 wks first cycle.
 
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