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    Is 8 weeks of 4ad/19nor too long? Many roid cycles go on 12 weeks (or longer for the hardcore) Just curious of opinions.

    It has been 8 or 9 weeks since I finished PCT from my last cycle so I've had some nice time off 12-13 weeks without anabolics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MF210
    Is 8 weeks of 4ad/19nor too long? Many roid cycles go on 12 weeks (or longer for the hardcore) Just curious of opinions.

    It has been 8 or 9 weeks since I finished PCT from my last cycle so I've had some nice time off 12-13 weeks without anabolics.
    firstly - it has been debated that 19-nor and 4-ad will compete for conversion enzymes. i'm not supporting either side - just suggesting a little research.

    2nd - although most PH cycles only run for 6 weeks or less, there would probably not be any detriment to going 8. is it really beneficial? maybe somebody can weigh in who has run a PH cycle longer and let us know if the gains kept coming...naturally in these cases you'll want to PCT longer as your test is suppressed longer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by THEBRAKES
    firstly - it has been debated that 19-nor and 4-ad will compete for conversion enzymes. i'm not supporting either side - just suggesting a little research.

    2nd - although most PH cycles only run for 6 weeks or less, there would probably not be any detriment to going 8. is it really beneficial? maybe somebody can weigh in who has run a PH cycle longer and let us know if the gains kept coming...naturally in these cases you'll want to PCT longer as your test is suppressed longer.
    You think longer than 4 weeks for PCT?
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    maybe up it to 5, but i think 4 would be sufficient
    60/40/40/20
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    I dont know what you think your gonna get out of the cycle, its very very wet. I would dose the 19nor at around 800mg a day if its trans. I would throw in some 1test if I were you.
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    to answer your question, no imo, 8 weeks is not too long, especially cuz your not taking any methlys
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    sometimes when people are taking long cycles they use hcg to help with the recovery because the longer you're shut down the longer it takes to come back. I'm running a 6 wk of md, 1t, 4ad and 40ht and might extend it to 8wks depending on the comments in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timogburn
    maybe up it to 5, but i think 4 would be sufficient
    60/40/40/20
    I was thinking 10-20 mg/ Nolva for 3-4 weeks along with Clomid. Clomid will be my primary PCT since I have never used it and want to try it. I figured I'd add a little nolva as well. I still need to read up on Clomid a little more so I know how I should dose it.
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