But that does not mean it should be ignored.
I see many loggers run SD, M1A, Super DMZ, or any combination of the "big boy" compounds and put on the size fairly quickly. My question is, and especially for those who are NOT pinning test or other AAS alongside their orals, where are those gains 3+ months after PCT has been completed? I don't care how big I get during a 4-6 week period or how much glycogen these compounds can make me retain. Glycogen isn't mass, water isn't mass, its here today and gone tomorrow for those of us who aren't pinning. I'm more interested about whether I'll keep any size gains in the long term. To that end, Mithras seems to be similar to Triumphalis but time will tell, at least with regards to my run.