Poll: When do you use liver support supplements?

Liver Protection Poll

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by yeahright
    But you're sold out sparky. Shouldn't you be in the basement mixing up a new batch rather than lollygagging around the net?
    Duh thats what I was doing! :clean:
    PharmD


  2. I didnt take previously but i'll start soon, not sure what supplements but i'll search for one good liver protect.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Mess
    I didnt take previously but i'll start soon, not sure what supplements but i'll search for one good liver protect.

    How about taking a look at this one?

    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/anabo...teup-full.html

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  4. Quote Originally Posted by CROWLER
    How about taking a look at this one?

    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/anabo...teup-full.html

    CROWLER
    I second that- Just mix it in a protein shake.

  5. Allright, you guys finally wore me down. Lol.

    Im sold.

    I just bought some cycle support for my cycle. it's a small price to pay for ones health. I got penut butter so I'll get a "coktail effect" when I put it in chocolate protien powder.

  6. Quote Originally Posted by UnicronSpawn
    Allright, you guys finally wore me down. Lol.

    Im sold.

    I just bought some cycle support for my cycle. it's a small price to pay for ones health. I got penut butter so I'll get a "coktail effect" when I put it in chocolate protien powder.
    It tastes great-make sure you use enough liquid, milk is the best.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Sea223
    It tastes great-make sure you use enough liquid, milk is the best.
    I prefer milk anyway, but I dont know what I'll do 4wks from now when I switch to cutting. I ussually switch to water in my shakes at that point.
    guess I'll just enjoy the milk while it lasts.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by LakeMountD
    This is definitely wrong.





    As for the CO Q-10 I would go with idebenone instead, since it is a more effective analog of CO Q-10 and also works synergyistically.

    We have these bases covered in our Cycle Support formula at AnabolicInnovations.com
    If I buy cycle support, do I start using 1 month or two weeks before my Halodrol cycle? SOme people are saying use cycle products 1mth before cycle nd some are saying two weeks. What do you think>?

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Sharia
    If I buy cycle support, do I start using 1 month or two weeks before my Halodrol cycle? SOme people are saying use cycle products 1mth before cycle nd some are saying two weeks. What do you think>?
    Personally, after talking with people they seem to be feeling the effects, especially with blood pressure, pretty quickly. I think 2 weeks before is fine. If not then I would run it at the start of the cycle and through PCT since cholesterol levels will be low in PCT, etc.
    PharmD

  10. During and after Pro Hormone cycles
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  11. I stay on a liver supplement myself. It doesn't really matter what I'm doing. Liv-52, it seems to work pretty well.

  12. lozgod's liver therapy is almost exactly like mine....especially during precontest when the orals and the dosages can get crazy. I am always somewhat elevated (liver enzymes) that's what you get when you take liquid d-bol as first timer.....(pre Anabolicminds.com board). Balance, control and proper maintenence is required to keep the liver up an runnin...It's funny that after a cycle I am elevated..have blood work...get yelled at by the doctor...take ala/milk thistle...the whole nine yards...lower levels to normal and the doc just shakes her head in displeasement... It's like it's my fault or something...well screw her. sorry tangent...mildly intolerent to anything right now do to 13 weeks of dieting...
    Drum

  13. I hear ya on the diet man. I've been on the cut since 08/06/06. I'm just about to crack. lol I'm on down though, almost to my target. So, not too much longer, maybe another 4 weeks. How far out are you do ya figure?

  14. Clark...I am 4 weeks out today, from my show. I am almost completely dialed in. I am on my slow dissension of carb intake now so now is the crappy part.

  15. Heh, nice. Good luck man. I know it sucks.
  16. Question


    I just started SNS's methyl-drol @ 20mg spit in 2-10mg doses.
    When is the best time to take AI's "cycle on" so as to avoid the "watering down" that liver protectants do.
    Any thoughts?

  17. I use SAMe + Liv.52 and have not had any problems with elevated liver enzymes

  18. Quote Originally Posted by jonesboy
    so what is the best stuff to take for both liver and blood pressure while on and off cycle without having to wait two months for it to work.
    I don't believe Liver Longer requires a ramp-up period.

  19. So many different opinions...i'm so confused...lol

    What you reccommend for someone doing his first 6 week oral cycle? since i dont know if my blood pressure will go up or how my cholesterol will react just yet, shouldI just take NAC during cycle and PCT and see what the blood work comes back as, then adjust for future cycles?

  20. Theres lot's of opinions because theres more than one way that works. Personally Id run Liv-52 through the cycle AND for a few weeks after. (It's cheap enough if you look around.) Adding in milk thistle in during PCT. (you can run it during too, but it supposedly slightly reduces the effectiveness of your methylated orals. People do it all the time and w/out noticing the reduction in absorption though.) If blood pressure is a concern, I like to take celery seed extract.
    You dont need to take every liver cleanser in existance to protect against a reasonably dosed oral cycle of reasonable duration, unless you have a history of elevated liver enzymes, or if your paranoid and rich. I only do blood work once a year, but my enzyme values are always on point by the time I finish PCT.
    Id pick no more than two of the reccomended products, and see how your blood work turns out. (give a few weeks after ending the cycle to let the supps do their thing b4 testing enzymes, unless you have mad money to burn, in wich case getting tested both on and after cycle would be ideal.) If your enzymes are out of range, then choose different supps, or stack a few together. No big deal brother.

  21. You only get blood work once a year? I thought most people did it more frequently than that.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by gators52
    You only get blood work once a year? I thought most people did it more frequently than that.
    If your insurance pays for it then you should.
    But gettin the whole nine yards done ussually costs me a couple hundred dollars. If I was making more money Id just put up the money and do it more often. Once during each cycle and once after each. Some insurance co's dont like spending hundreds every couple months for "preventative diagnostic" precedures. If your sick, fine, but if your not then some co's would rather you just ignore your levels until you ARE sick I guess. Kind of messed up.

  23. what do u guys think should be taken with havoc? to my understanding its not as harsh as other orals? Would AIs cycle support be enough? or should i take liver longer with it?

  24. Well maybe Dsade will chime in. We talked a little and he said he always recommends Cycle Support with Havoc.


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  25. Quote Originally Posted by bubbaw View Post
    I just started SNS's methyl-drol @ 20mg spit in 2-10mg doses.
    When is the best time to take AI's "cycle on" so as to avoid the "watering down" that liver protectants do.
    Any thoughts?
    The 'watering down' that you're referring to is so slight that it's really not noticeable. In my eyes, health > any amount of gains.

  26. On Cycle- I use Milk Thistle + NAC + Liv.52 + TMG + Lecithin

    PCT- I use NAC + Liv.52 + SAMe

  27. I haven't seen any clear evidence that "liver protection" really helps all that much. And it's not the methyl group itself that is toxic (many ingested food stuffs are methylated), it's the effect of androgens themselves on liver metabolism. Androgenicity in the liver affects bile content/activity.

    2 weeks in on H-drol and my ALT levels went slightly above normal:

    Halodrol/H-Drol is Suppressive... My Scanned Blood Work Inside

    And I take AI cycle support. Bloodwork says it all.

  28. Anyone any experience on not taking a liver support one cycle and then taking it the next- feel any difference?

  29. Quote Originally Posted by lozgod View Post
    Everyday of my life.
    Same for me.

  30. I use Liv 52 + animal paks... I also drink monavie so I get all the anti oxidents I need. I also drink water non stop throughout the day.
  

  
 

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