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Theoretical - First and only juice - Gains ?

nitche

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I have been lifting about one year now. Last six months with a really good nutrition. Been here 18 years. I know, I know, it's not right time for juice, yet they say. But human is jealous and we want everything right now, right here. So here I am.

My question is: If I do my first cycle now, do almost all of my gains disappear soon after my cycle is done. Off course I will do some after stuff like oxo and keep my training and nutrition on top (easy to say at this point). I have done a lot of research about ph:s, never enough off course. I know that this question is really theoretical and depends a lot of my own genetics and nutrition, but please give me some hint.


I'm not saying that I won't do SECOND cycle, but atm my plan is only one. Just to experience those stimulating, soon banned sugars.

Be honest and polite to this wimp writing here. And thanks for
helping.
 
if your mind is made up, then proceed with caution. my advice, research a lot more if you think oxo is a sufficient PCT and that PH's are 'juice'. everything you need to know or learn can be found with the search button.
 
I think doing a cycle so early will do you more harm than good. I'm just curious, but what type of cycle were you planning on doing?
 
If you've really done your research, you would know the answers we are going to give you. There are posts like this all the time. What do we say? You are too young and can gain as easily with dedication to proper diet and training.

I'd also like to know what cycle you've planned. Please dont throw caution to the wind and say an M1T cycle.
 
Beelzebub said:
if your mind is made up, then proceed with caution. my advice, research a lot more if you think oxo is a sufficient PCT and that PH's are 'juice'. everything you need to know or learn can be found with the search button.

Yeah, okey. Let me make this straight. Don't take too literally all the small particular points I wrote. As I wrote, oxo is not gonna be my only pct.

"will do some after stuff like oxo"


I might made one mistake calling ph:s as a juice and most of the people doesn't even say those two words in a same sentence. But to me - they both are illegel drugs with a lot of same side effects (pos and neg).

Cuffs. Not that far in my decision yet. This is just a pitiful thread to decide whatever I'm even gonna try any PH:s.

Enigma: Looks like I'm pretty bad with using that research button. I will try again and we can bury this allready messed up thread.

BTW: You have no idea how much I have tried to research about muscle loss after cycle - in a long run. And let's not waste time to the typical newbie bullshit about PH:s. I have done my homework.

And thanks for making things more straight.
 
Let me say that, if and when you do decide on doing a cycle, take baby steps. You'll hear a lot of K.I.S.S. (keep it simple stupid). If you go with PH's, look into 1AD/4AD, and maybe into a 1-test. Then graduate to the other compounds, M1,4add, M1T, etc. But, if these items are already illegal for you, and they will be for me real soon, then you may want to educate yourself in the area of AAS's in the Anabolic section. 24 would be a good age to start, as long as training and diet are in check.
 
With the way that things are now and the legal standpoint on AAS and PH's I would just wait till I was older.. then run a cycle of AAS
 
With the way that things are now and the legal standpoint on AAS and PH's I would just wait till I was older.. then run a cycle of AAS
I agree your better off waiting until your older and have a lot of knowledge of AAS, plus ph's are going to be illegal very soon your better off just going straight to the real juice.
 
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