Dimethandrostenol:what to expect (SD vs Phera)
- 05-29-2013, 04:58 PM
Dimethandrostenol:what to expect (SD vs Phera)
Im just trying to figure out what to expect when taking the compound. its suggested at 15mgs a day. only thing i am worried about is the lab testing done on mice with Desoxymethyltestosterone (phera) resulted in some having enlarged hearts...and this is said to be close to phera. im not sure would like to hear from someone more knowledgeable on compounds. (i dont know alot about phera never taken it) was it 5a-reduced and could not aromatize.
Total Flex Blog 2013
Structure and Function:
Dimethandrostenol can be considered to be like methasterone (superdrol) with an additional double bond, or like desoxymethyltestosterone (phera-plex) with an additional 2-methyl group.
The presence of the adjacent double-bond causes the C-2 methyl group of dimethandrostenol to be planar (as with stenbolone and methyl stenbolone), unlike 2-methyl groups on saturated A-rings (like masteron and superdrol), which have to be in the alpha or beta position (alpha, in those examples).
Dimethandrostenol cannot aromatize to form estrogenic metabolites, as it has no C4-5 double bond (it is ’5α-reduced’). For the same reason, it is not a substrate for (cannot be transformed by) the enzyme 5α-reductase (the enzyme that catalyzes the reaction that turns testosterone to DHT).
claims 1000-1040 anabolic potency.
- 05-29-2013, 05:53 PM
I would expect it to be similar to phera, but its hard to say.
Di methy 1 test is nothing like m1t.
Methyl dht is nothing like Sd.
So its pretty much up in the air, will it be nicer on the body, like msten, or harsher, like Sd.
I would expect it to be nicer, but one can never know.
05-29-2013, 06:21 PM
05-29-2013, 06:44 PM
I really hope its treats users better than SD and is stronger. If so I'm gonna use this instead of dbol in my November bulk cycle.
05-29-2013, 07:25 PM
Well, Sd is 2a methyl, where msten, and Di meth phera are 2methyl, this is a difference in where the methyl is located on the 2 position of the carbon.
05-29-2013, 07:56 PM
Are there ratings of superdrol and phera based of testosterone 100:100 ? like how trenbolone is like 500:500 anabolic:androgenic or something lighter like deca is 125:37.
05-29-2013, 08:49 PM
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05-30-2013, 12:29 AM
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05-30-2013, 02:26 AM
havent thought about it, but i may. probably would help other people, i assume most people will be waiting to run it after summer. no one wants body acne at the beach ha
05-30-2013, 11:04 AM
06-01-2013, 01:41 AM
this thread should give you a good comparison. Syntex laboratories tested all three of those steroids (at different times) by oral route and dimethandrostenol was measured with the highest anabolic rating. If you're interested in how it (potentially) compares to M1T based on the second graph, i'd be happy to explain.
06-01-2013, 03:15 AM
06-01-2013, 03:31 AM
06-01-2013, 03:38 AM
If phera was compared against a bunch of other oral steroids, and was the only one that caused this increase in heart weight, then the results would have some significance. As it is, I can't see that it demonstrates that phera has any particular effect on heart weight that is absent from other drugs.
06-01-2013, 08:22 AM
I read everything. It seems like we're all gonna put on 30 pounds and lose our livers. Pretty good tradeoff IMO.
06-01-2013, 01:57 PM
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06-01-2013, 05:22 PM
im getting two bottles and was thinking doing a 6 week 10/15/15/15or20/15or20/15or20 or do you guys think this should just be 1 bottle at a time 15mgs for 30 days.
06-03-2013, 06:26 PM
06-03-2013, 10:29 PM
it's up to you on dosing, will follow for sure. I debated tossing this in as a kickstart for my test cycle in 2 weeks, but going to wait for other to log. If the results pan out I'll run this in the winter for my heavy bulk.
Rejoice not against me, O mine enemy: when I fall, I shall arise; when I sit in darkness, the LORD shall be a light unto me. Micah 7:8
06-07-2013, 05:07 PM
Will start mithras Monday and probably a log. Just got my 10lb bag of elite gourmet and 10lb bag of universal real gains and a non stim pre workout no booster. Time to get serious
06-07-2013, 07:48 PM
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