tren a/test prop cycle critique

[Noshirt52]

well originally i was going to run my tren a cycle solo with no test base. After my first inj i changed my mind and i am going to start prop with it. I am very gyno prone so ill be running an ai and also be running the prop at a low dosage.

Week 1-8 tren a 75mgs Sun/tue/thur/sat
Week 1-8 test prop 50mgs sun/tue/thur/sat
Week 1-8 caber .5 sun/thur
Week 1-8 forma stanzol (every day) i have used it in the past and really keeps my gyno under control.

I am running extra milk thistle. Fish oils. AI cycle support.

My pct is going to be:
3 days after my last inj of tren a/prop....

Weeks 1-4 clomid 100/75/50/25
Weeks 1-4 nolva 40/20/20/10

Does anyone have any critique on this? I have already started the cycle today. I am just attempting to make sure i do it all the right way. I have done months of research and all has lead to what i have posted above. How does that look?

by the way this is my first tren run.

I have two previous test e cycles under the belt.

stats are:
5'11
200 lbs
15 percent body fat. You can look at my default to see what i look like.
5 years lifting experience

 

[Noshirt52]

will also be running this as a log if anyone is curious to see what tren is like. Ill be posting some pics throughout the way and my experiences with it

 

[Noshirt52]

Bump on the critique

 

[booneman77]

In for this. I'm planning out my first tren run for july so this'll be a good reference for me. Good luck man

 

[ucmuscle]

Looks good man. Kill that ****.

 

[machorox123]

Ahh hoodbridge is back.. Decent cycle.. Just wait a little longer for the tren ester to clear before starting nolva. Errything else looks good bro kill it

 

[Noshirt52]

In for this. I'm planning out my first tren run for july so this'll be a good reference for me. Good luck man

Got you. Ill be on here daily posting. Dude i feel like it already kicked in. I just want to ****in toss **** haha

 

[Noshirt52]

Ahh hoodbridge is back.. Decent cycle.. Just wait a little longer for the tren ester to clear before starting nolva. Errything else looks good bro kill it

Hell yea dude. Reppin out here hahaha first tren run im amped bro. Stay posted for feedback if your interested dude.

Goin clean diet and super hard lifts starting tmrw.

Anyone have any feedback on libido issues?

 

[tnubs]

I dunno how much difference it will make for u, but I like to pin my tren ace daily. Many people have reported less sides that route.

 

[Noshirt52]

I dunno how much difference it will make for u, but I like to pin my tren ace daily. Many people have reported less sides that route.

Ive considered all routes. Done research on every method. Eod is a trial basis and if i feel sides are severe ill be switching over to ed shots

 

[Noshirt52]

14 preloaded syringes! 75 mg tren a/50mg test p each!
Had a little test p left over in my vial. Im annoyed about that cause i have nothing to do with it a waste of 2 or 3 mls

 

[booneman77]

14 preloaded syringes! 75 mg tren a/50mg test p each!
Had a little test p left over in my vial. Im annoyed about that cause i have nothing to do with it a waste of 2 or 3 mls

<img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=81063"/>

Just add an extra pin or two at the end of your cycle ha. Can't do much else with that little

 

[Noshirt52]

Haha i know. Your just not supposed to leave it in a open vial for to long. Last time i left an open vial of test e around it def got contaminated. Every shot caused a red rash

 

[machorox123]

14 preloaded syringes! 75 mg tren a/50mg test p each!
Had a little test p left over in my vial. Im annoyed about that cause i have nothing to do with it a waste of 2 or 3 mls

<img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=81063"/>

Fukc that just throw them into the cycle

 

[Noshirt52]

Yup. Thats what im gonna do. Gonna go preload some more syringes. Add some extra test p

 

[Noshirt52]

Just did second injection. Was so anxious to get more tren in me. Obviously nothing to report badk yet. I do feel crazy in the gym tho. Idk if its mental or not

 

[Noshirt52]

For anyone who wants to mix tren and testp inj. Prepare for pain lol its tolerable but jesus haha

Idk if its mental or not but i do feel slightly irritable. And i sweat like crazy usually so i cant tell if anyrhing kicked in. Its only been 2 shots so i doubt anything has set in yet.

Added some clen at 40 a day

 

[threeFs]

Haha i know. Your just not supposed to leave it in a open vial for to long. Last time i left an open vial of test e around it def got contaminated. Every shot caused a red rash

Wait, what do you mean? Open vial meaning what? How could it get contaminated if you're pulling with sterile needles?

 

[Noshirt52]

Idk. I removed needles from package. Cleaned top of vial. Its strange cause vials are vacuumed tight. Must have been bunk gear

 

[xFireBullx]

subbed!

 

[threeFs]

Idk. I removed needles from package. Cleaned top of vial. Its strange cause vials are vacuumed tight. Must have been bunk gear

Wow man, that's crazy

 

[Noshirt52]

Yea dude. Bad reaction to it. Gonna post some pics this weekend. I been super busy. Injection #3 today

 

[threeFs]

Yea dude. Bad reaction to it. Gonna post some pics this weekend. I been super busy. Injection #3 today

Good to see you ain't learned your lesson. Lol jk

 

[Randyghee]

I'm sure you'll be really happy with tren. Some people say doesn't act as good for them but IMO i react really good to it and I love it. Good luck bro! Looking good btw.

 

[Noshirt52]

Thanks bro. Ima little big bigger now then in my default. I had to drop the clen starting tmrw.

For anyone who hasnt taken clen and plans on it...me personally i got severe migraines (3tylenols dont even work) and horrible stomach pains.

Thats only at 40 a day.

Just my 2 cents on that.

 

[xFireBullx]

were you using taurine?

 

[Noshirt52]

I am taking an amino supp. Not taurine in specific.
Dude i can take side effects. These stomach aches and migraines are like no other

 

[tnubs]

Thanks bro. Ima little big bigger now then in my default. I had to drop the clen starting tmrw.

For anyone who hasnt taken clen and plans on it...me personally i got severe migraines (3tylenols dont even work) and horrible stomach pains.

Thats only at 40 a day.

Just my 2 cents on that.

have you checked your blood pressure? i cant even touch clen or mine goes thru the roof, which may be whats causing the migranes.

 

[Noshirt52]

I just got a physical done the other day. My bp was 100 percent perfect. When im at the gym i dont really get red or feel my bp high. Ive had it high before from
Supps so i know what it feels like

 

[Noshirt52]

4 pics of me now. Ill take another in 4 weeks or so. Proper diet and hard lifts is what im doinv

 

[Pypp]

Subbed, I'm looking to run same cycle in fall. Looks like an interesting read

 

[Noshirt52]

So far i dont have much to report but its only been 5 days. Ill be reporting throughout the cycle tho. Helps me keep track of where im at

 

[Noshirt52]

Just pinned my left quad with the mix. Went in and hit a vein i felt it lol it was so hard to push in. So i decided to pull out and move the needle a bit and *squirt* out came the blood lol now i have a little black and blue there. Looks like a little swollen mosquito bite haha

I am pinning eod left and right quads. I know this is bad for scar tissue purposes but i cant pin my delts or glute on my own. Ill let u guys know how the sides feel. Almost a full week in!

 

[threeFs]

Just pinned my left quad with the mix. Went in and hit a vein i felt it lol it was so hard to push in. So i decided to pull out and move the needle a bit and *squirt* out came the blood lol now i have a little black and blue there. Looks like a little swollen mosquito bite haha

I am pinning eod left and right quads. I know this is bad for scar tissue purposes but i cant pin my delts or glute on my own. Ill let u guys know how the sides feel. Almost a full week in!

I pin glutes every day. It's easier than you think

 

[Noshirt52]

Im also not looking forward go virgin muscle soreness. Going to eventually have to give something new a shot

 

[booneman77]

Just pinned my left quad with the mix. Went in and hit a vein i felt it lol it was so hard to push in. So i decided to pull out and move the needle a bit and *squirt* out came the blood lol now i have a little black and blue there. Looks like a little swollen mosquito bite haha

I am pinning eod left and right quads. I know this is bad for scar tissue purposes but i cant pin my delts or glute on my own. Ill let u guys know how the sides feel. Almost a full week in!

Ventroglutes. Easy to pin, pip really isn't an issue since its not in a functional spot

 

[Noshirt52]

Ok im definitely gonna look into that

 

[xFireBullx]

I pin glutes every day. It's easier than you think

im scared to pin glutes lol have actually heard a lot of bad stories due to all the nerves in that area.

I stick to quads and delts

 

[Noshirt52]

My quads are getting almost used to the oils. Today did legs after my left quad pin and jesus was that ****ing painful. Barely feel it now tho so i guess it was worth it

 

[Noshirt52]

So my quads have been good with pins. I did legs yesterday right after my inj and it was fine but today i literally can not walk. It feels like the oil is sitting above my knee and like the lower left part of my thigh. Jesus this is the most painful pin i have ever had.


For those who have not yet tried doing legs after a pin i would not suggest it

 

[Lukef2000]

So my quads have been good with pins. I did legs yesterday right after my inj and it was fine but today i literally can not walk. It feels like the oil is sitting above my knee and like the lower left part of my thigh. Jesus this is the most painful pin i have ever had.

For those who have not yet tried doing legs after a pin i would not suggest it

What your describing is the oil tracking down towards your knee. Ill post up a link explaining the reason behind it when I get home. Give it a couple days it should go away. Also why such a high dose of test? Tren binds to the AR 5 times more than test so you really don't need that much. I'd also run the prop past the tren by at least a week. You don't want tren metabolites active in your system when your trying to restart your nuts.

 

[Noshirt52]

I dont get why my gyno flares up so bad. It flared up again. Its not prolactin related cause i am not lactating. I am running forma stanzol but it still popped up.

Looks like now ill have to reverse it with letro and then run nolva on cycle to prevent estro from binding.

 

[Noshirt52]

What sucks is i have 9 preloaded syringes left with the 50 mgs of test p in it. So i cant lower my dosage till im done with those. 2 more weeks.

I am currently taking:
Prami
Letro
Forma stanzol
Test p
Tren a

All supporting supps as well. Just annoying how prone i am to gyno. I hate it

 

[threeFs]

You don't have to inject it all

 

[Noshirt52]

Yea but then i wont be getting as much tren a...

 

[Noshirt52]

Just injected into my left delt for the first time with a slin. Wasnt as hard as i thought to work it with one hand. Due to my being nervous and trembling the needle kept popping out a bit. A little oil popped out but jesus i already feel pip for this virgin muscle. Im excited to rid this gyno tho. Hope letro destroys it quick.

Afterwards ill be running liquidex. Just a quick question. Should i run nolva on cycle to prevent rebound?

 

[machorox123]

Just injected into my left delt for the first time with a slin. Wasnt as hard as i thought to work it with one hand. Due to my being nervous and trembling the needle kept popping out a bit. A little oil popped out but jesus i already feel pip for this virgin muscle. Im excited to rid this gyno tho. Hope letro destroys it quick.

Afterwards ill be running liquidex. Just a quick question. Should i run nolva on cycle to prevent rebound?

Why use a slin.. I actually get less pip in my shoulders than quads.. But then again it really depends on the gear.. Dont use nolva on cycle wit the tren.

 

[Noshirt52]

The pins are so small and painless. Felt nothing as i put it in. I like had to double take my shoulder to make sure it was in. And yea not gonna run the nolva. Ill be using liquidex After this letro work.

 

[Noshirt52]

Gonna taper up and then taper down.

 

[Lukef2000]

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