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    Quote Originally Posted by Noshirt52 View Post
    So my quads have been good with pins. I did legs yesterday right after my inj and it was fine but today i literally can not walk. It feels like the oil is sitting above my knee and like the lower left part of my thigh. Jesus this is the most painful pin i have ever had.

    For those who have not yet tried doing legs after a pin i would not suggest it
    What your describing is the oil tracking down towards your knee. Ill post up a link explaining the reason behind it when I get home. Give it a couple days it should go away. Also why such a high dose of test? Tren binds to the AR 5 times more than test so you really don't need that much. I'd also run the prop past the tren by at least a week. You don't want tren metabolites active in your system when your trying to restart your nuts.

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    I dont get why my gyno flares up so bad. It flared up again. Its not prolactin related cause i am not lactating. I am running forma stanzol but it still popped up.

    Looks like now ill have to reverse it with letro and then run nolva on cycle to prevent estro from binding.
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    What sucks is i have 9 preloaded syringes left with the 50 mgs of test p in it. So i cant lower my dosage till im done with those. 2 more weeks.

    I am currently taking:
    Prami
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    Forma stanzol
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    All supporting supps as well. Just annoying how prone i am to gyno. I hate it
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    You don't have to inject it all
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    Yea but then i wont be getting as much tren a...
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    Just injected into my left delt for the first time with a slin. Wasnt as hard as i thought to work it with one hand. Due to my being nervous and trembling the needle kept popping out a bit. A little oil popped out but jesus i already feel pip for this virgin muscle. Im excited to rid this gyno tho. Hope letro destroys it quick.

    Afterwards ill be running liquidex. Just a quick question. Should i run nolva on cycle to prevent rebound?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noshirt52 View Post
    Just injected into my left delt for the first time with a slin. Wasnt as hard as i thought to work it with one hand. Due to my being nervous and trembling the needle kept popping out a bit. A little oil popped out but jesus i already feel pip for this virgin muscle. Im excited to rid this gyno tho. Hope letro destroys it quick.

    Afterwards ill be running liquidex. Just a quick question. Should i run nolva on cycle to prevent rebound?
    Why use a slin.. I actually get less pip in my shoulders than quads.. But then again it really depends on the gear.. Dont use nolva on cycle wit the tren.
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    The pins are so small and painless. Felt nothing as i put it in. I like had to double take my shoulder to make sure it was in. And yea not gonna run the nolva. Ill be using liquidex After this letro work.
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    Gonna taper up and then taper down.
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    The link doesnt work. Ill copy and paste it on my comp later. Thanks for the read
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    Just some feedback on the sides.


    DEFINITELY lethargic and its noticeable. I am dragging thru the day. Never have i actually been able to say i felt lethargic.

    Irratibility wise nothing. I am normally a little edgy haha but i feel like this is all mental. If you fell yourself to be calm you can be.

    Sweats and insomnia. Zero. Same as usual. I actually sleep like a baby cause i feel so lethargic all day.

    Lifts are insane. Pumps are unreal. Havent benched in 2 moths cause of a bad shoulder. Decided to put 225 on and just threw it up 10 times like a feather lol


    ****in love this **** man. This gyno
    Is annoying tho. Cant wait for letro to kick in
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    You lookin good bro..Keep it up..By the way why didn't you start taking Arimidex from day-1? That woulda helped with your gyno issues
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    Te forma stanzol i have always kept my gyno at bay. I started at day 1. Now running letro and after gonna run liquidex. Ill keep you posted
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    Just did bis and tris. Im 8 days in and for anyone who has never done tren...take this from a first timer. This pump is like nothing i have ever felt before. My arm is divided into 3 sections lol looks ****ing awesome. I cant believe im only 8 days in. Sick pumps on this stuff
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    That's good to hear man..By the way are you able to get it up n bone?? That's the reason I'm scared to run Tren-A lol!
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    Ever here of esculap i think its called? Its a generic cialis. I always have like 200 of those on hand lol order in bulk. So on cycle i just use those when needed. Plus im running a test base and prami which helps with the prolactin issues
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    Quote Originally Posted by ALPH0NSE View Post
    That's good to hear man..By the way are you able to get it up n bone?? That's the reason I'm scared to run Tren-A lol!
    Provided that your controlling your hormones ie estrogen and prolactin you shouldn't have a problem with libido.
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    So if I take Arimidex EOD for estrogen levels is that a good idea? And plus what should I take for prolactin and what's the dosage? Thx for the help guys...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000 View Post

    Provided that your controlling your hormones ie estrogen and prolactin you shouldn't have a problem with libido.
    Yea like i said even without it. I am fine. Just take it cause its awesome haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by ALPH0NSE View Post
    So if I take Arimidex EOD for estrogen levels is that a good idea? And plus what should I take for prolactin and what's the dosage? Thx for the help guys...
    For prolactin you have to take either prami or caber to control it. Research the sides for both. To me prami hasnt had any to speak of yet.

    Arimidex eod is fine. I am gyno prone so ill be running liquid ed for the rest of my cycle.

    By the way my gyno lump is always gone. This lestro is magic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noshirt52 View Post

    Yea like i said even without it. I am fine. Just take it cause its awesome haha
    Still rather use it and not need it rather than need it and not be running it. Being proactive is the key.
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    Yea i am being proactive. I havent had any prolactin issues but i still run the prami
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    NoShirt52 do you run Letro on cycle or as part of your PCT?
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    Letro should not be used part of pct. do you know what letro is used for? I advise you do some research before you tke any of these.
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    I've been doin my research and I'm not goin to start my cycle till I'm 100% ready and confident bout it..That is why am on here..From what I know is that Letro is used to destroy gyno that occurred due to a gear cycle..Is that true?
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    Letro is used to rid of ESTRO related gyno. Kills sex drive tho. I am running a test base so its balancing out.

    There is prolactin related gyno which will cause you to lactate (literally). Tren elevates prolactin so you take prami or caber to counter it. Those lower prolactin levels. Ive never had that type of gyno so i cant comment on it. I dont plan on it. Thats why im running the prami.
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    Its 90 degrees in jersey. When i say SEVERE sweats like i felt sick cause my body had no water left in it. I mustve drank like 10 water bottles today hands down
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    Oh Damn! Any new cuts shown or just strength goin up?
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    Tren sweats are serious. Like i dont stop sweating. Its actually getting quite annoying. As for strength and size.

    Strength has gone up for sure. What felt heavy just doesnt anymore

    Size i am gettin compliments left nd right.

    No insomnia and not really any more irritable then normal
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    Mucuna, 1 carboxy, prami and caber all control prolactin. The puffiness around your areola would suggest prolactin. Hard lump gyno, fatty disc with puffy nips prolactin. Control both on cycle.

    Dump that junk formastanzol, use aromasin on cycle and pramipexole (already doing this i know, up the dose by .25mg if you have another flare up)
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    Ok thanks for the input
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    How many CC's are u injecting as far as Tren-A and Test-P EOD? By the way I just saw your default pic man an that's one hell of a transformation! That's inspirational, keep it up...
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    Right now its 2 ccs of each a week divided into 4. After this week i am bumping my tren dosage up and test dosage down. Tren will be 300 mgs weekly and test will be 100 mgs weekly.

    You know whats amazing about this so far? I count calories as everyone should. And i am currently running caloric deficit by about 1000. Trying to lean up for summer. My weigt is up to 201 lol and i started at 195. I am leaner and more muscular.

    Its only 2 weeks in. Mentally i can say tren affects you. I am a happy person ALWAYS. This stuff makes you very gloomy sort of like down. I can feel the irritability. I snap at people for everything.

    This is only 200 mgs weekly. Ill see at 300. I dont get the insomnia i have been sleeping like my 3 yr old nephew.

    Alphonse thanks for transformation comment!
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    I'm wondering why are you increasing the Tren and decreasing the Test? For 2 weeks so far that's great results bro! Caloric Deficit and gaining weight, now that's what's up ;-) lol! Oh and you're welcome, I've been in a situation like that before where I transformed my body from fat to muscle by losing a 116 pounds and dropping my bf to 5% so I understand what you went through. It ain't EASY!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ALPH0NSE View Post
    I'm wondering why are you increasing the Tren and decreasing the Test? For 2 weeks so far that's great results bro! Caloric Deficit and gaining weight, now that's what's up ;-) lol! Oh and you're welcome, I've been in a situation like that before where I transformed my body from fat to muscle by losing a 116 pounds and dropping my bf to 5% so I understand what you went through. It ain't EASY!
    How did you handle the loose skin?
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    I know someone who lost 120 pounds and had no loose skin. Everyone is different tho
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noshirt52 View Post
    I know someone who lost 120 pounds and had no loose skin. Everyone is different tho
    It all depends on how you go about it. Too quick and your skin looses its elasticity and you get lose skin. Maintaining hydration is key to retaining the elastin in your skin.
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    I didn't end up with loose skin..I did lotsa heavy weight cable crunches that helped big time..Every person is different tho
  

  
 

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