First cycle of RAW(epi and lmg)
- 05-12-2013, 11:59 AM
- 05-12-2013, 12:09 PM
Edit- Didn't realize taking 30 mg of epi was considered underdosing? Thought 40-50 was the sweet spot for most but many see results at 30/day. I didn't buy this bc of some video lol. I did some research and they had a sale on this product. Dropped from 100 t0 50/bottle. I'll be running this 5 weeks total so not that much diff than your 6 that you recommended. If I order some liquid clomid will you guys back off a little? Everyone comes off like I know absolutely nothing and assume the worst while putting themselves up on this pedastal
05-12-2013, 01:17 PM
Ok I'm just going to order clomid. Would there be any benefit to adding letrozol, tamoxifen, and/or torem? I originally planned on using just clomid at the beginning of my cycle but figured it wasn't working and didn't have the need to run one.
05-13-2013, 03:06 AM
05-13-2013, 09:33 AM
and if you read numerous threads, youd have known raw sucks. we come off as elitists because you wernt listening and kept making dum excuses
05-13-2013, 10:16 AM
05-13-2013, 10:21 AM
05-13-2013, 10:31 AM
I think you underdosed the epi. I am on my first week on epi, and I am already seeing results. Modest results, but they are there only a week into cycle. I probably think my diet has helped because I am eating way more than I was eating. I am running epi at 40mg a day, since day 2, and already look leaner (I can appreciate it and other people as well) and gained 3 pounds.So, again, I think you underdosed the epi.Finally, im glad you are going to run a serm.
05-13-2013, 12:21 PM
05-13-2013, 12:24 PM
No i ran it at 2 caps a day for week one then up ed it to 3/day till week 3. I've been at 4/day since then and have 5 days left. 5 weeks total. Personally i think its just a ****ty product bc my training and diet are on point. Taking 100mg of lmg and 40mg of epi i should be feeling it come on pretty strong but its incredibly weak.
05-13-2013, 03:35 PM
"I had an ACL reconstruction done. The surgeon used semitendinosus tendon for the operation. rehab was a bitch. I didn't notice any major improvements until I started squatting with moderate weight. I started squatting with 135 lbs. about 3 months after the surgery and was back to squatting my regular weight about 10 - 12 months later. Four years later later, I'm squatting significantly more weight than before the injury. There is no pain in the knee when I squat below parallel. When I try to go ass to the ground I do feel some stiffness in the joint. "
you can make excuses or you can make progress
05-13-2013, 04:46 PM
05-13-2013, 04:50 PM
There is this Xerbia kid who is not even 20 and does a ****load of gear and nobody says crap to him..
05-13-2013, 04:52 PM
05-13-2013, 04:53 PM
05-13-2013, 04:56 PM
05-13-2013, 05:01 PM
05-13-2013, 05:09 PM
Show me a hard gainer and I'll show you someone who doesn't eat enough.
People just get butt hurt a little too easy sometimes...
05-13-2013, 08:32 PM
Sorry if I got off on the wrong foot with some people but I do believe in treat people the way you want to be treated. I never said anything negative until I got lit up for being a moron bc I eat all the time(most days over 3500 calories, and yes macros are dead on), train my ass off, and sleep 8 hours a night. IMHO I'm doing everything I can to make gains, but to others that have never met me, or have the slightest idea of how hard working a person I am, I'm doing absolutely nothing right in their eyes.
For my original goals of recomp my results are decent I guess, but personally I feel its just 5 weeks of training showing minimal results. I had one day where I felt increbily strong. Thats it. If I am taking gear where the hell are the strength gains?
05-13-2013, 08:44 PM
If your job is that physical, than you need to up your calories even more. With caloric surplus and a solid program, it's impossible not to gain weight. You might find you need 4500 to be in surplus.
Bro, we get guys in here all the time, 150 lbs and want to start running gear. For the most part, the guys here will discourage 'newbs' ( don't take that personal) from jumping in.
Here's an idea: if you're not gaining at 3500, eat normally and drink 1/2 gallon a day of 2% milk.
That's another 1200 cals.
You will gain weight...
05-13-2013, 08:48 PM
05-13-2013, 08:56 PM
05-13-2013, 08:58 PM
05-13-2013, 09:01 PM
05-13-2013, 09:02 PM
He is 6'1 220 and 20 yrs old.
He's running five different steroids and doesn't even squat, what ****ing joke.
But some people you just can't argue with.
Could you list what your height, weight, bf and macros actually are?
Maybe I can help with those. Not saying you are incompetent, just saying another set of eyes always helps
05-13-2013, 09:05 PM
05-13-2013, 09:07 PM
05-13-2013, 09:15 PM
05-13-2013, 09:35 PM
You guys are all full of S*$t bashing this guy with dead lift this and squat that. He is a hard gainer plain and simple. You can eat & lift perfect then take test E and anadrol till the cows come home and still not get huge. A guy I grew up with does no squats, no dead lift, hell 90% of his lifts are on machines. Yes is is a fing huge beast. Sorry but it is 80% genetics. Sure a proper diet, training and gear a huge but nothing will ever come close to what you where born with.
05-13-2013, 09:42 PM
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