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    Quote Originally Posted by El Hefe View Post
    Your next option is surgery? Bro, sometimes it’s hard to take some of your comments seriously.

    You should be at 8.5%? Only if your diet and training warrant such a low bf percentage.

    Some guys look at these drugs as if results are guaranteed. As if they’re looking at a weight loss brochure that says 5% bf guaranteed or 8.5% bf guaranteed. Or and AAS that produces 10 lbs of lean mass vs. 15 lbs of lean mass. There’s no such thing.

    This would be the same as a customer in a sporting good store approaching the Salesman asking “I’m looking for a baseball bat that will hit 50 home runs. How many will this bat hit?”.

    All these drugs/compounds do your assist and support your efforts/actions.

    And if you can lose 1+ lbs per week while preserving or gaining lean mass – why are you even considering clen and T3? It’s like these guys that gain 5-10 lbs on an oral cycle and then turn around and say they could have done it on their own. Well, that’s what they should have done.

    These drugs are all dangerous and should only be used by those who
    1. have thoroughly researched and understand them
    2. have reached their natural genetic potential
    3. understand and except the possible side effects (unlike these guys that say they want to run test, tren and an oral but they don’t want acne, libido problems, shedding, etc).

    Best of luck
    Thank you for the input but my diet is pretty lean in my opinion. Not perfect but pretty good. I try to keep my fat intake at 15% but as you may know that's pretty hard, so I hover around 15%-18%. I taper my carbs to the point where my last meal is 99% protein. I dont know what else to do. When I was 23, I did NO cardio and just ate as much as I could, not super strict as now thought and I sneaked in quite a few Nutella chocolate bread spreads and was at 8.5%. So one would think that with a cleaner diet, cardio, clen and t3 shouldn't I be able to break 10%?

    I was told that running is bad and that it eats muscle. When I ran was the only time I was even able to get down to 10.7%. So I started walking and I have never been below 11.5%. Now, out of desperation I'm running again. I have read that it's low test that causes men to gain fat; but if that were totally true everyone on AAS would be shredded and clearly we are not. There must be something that's not being taken into account. It makes no sense that someone who has a fairly healthy and strict dient, does cardio and lifts weights cannot break 10% BF.

    When I said I could get to where I am from dieting and exercise I meant that is I could get there with those things shouldnt t3 and clen add to it? Maybe I'm thinking about this wrong.

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    Sometimes we all get a little impatient. Take your time and think of this as a marathon and not a 40 yard dash. You'll come out ahead.

    The main thing is to keep at it, change things up, make diet and training tweaks as needed, make incremental gains, etc - and the KEEP the gains/improvements. They'll add up faster than you think. Just think, you said you dropped 3% bf. Do that 2 or 3 more times, and you'll be ****|ng diced. Just stay on top and don't go backwards.

    If you can figure out how to make lean mass gains and lose fat (even if just a little) off cycle, then your cycles will be even more effective. If your having trouble off cycle, crashing, etc, your cycle wont yield much either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Hefe View Post
    Sometimes we all get a little impatient. Take your time and think of this as a marathon and not a 40 yard dash. You'll come out ahead.

    The main thing is to keep at it, change things up, make diet and training tweaks as needed, make incremental gains, etc - and the KEEP the gains/improvements. They'll add up faster than you think. Just think, you said you dropped 3% bf. Do that 2 or 3 more times, and you'll be ****|ng diced. Just stay on top and don't go backwards.

    If you can figure out how to make lean mass gains and lose fat (even if just a little) off cycle, then your cycles will be even more effective. If your having trouble off cycle, crashing, etc, your cycle wont yield much either.
    I'm happy with my initial BF losses but for the past 2 weeks I have not lost any. I want to make tweaks to my diet but there is so much information out there and so much of it conflicts. I have called a dietitian and am willing to pay for help; but I appreciate your repsonse. There are some ass holes on this site who shall remain nameless who go around telling people how smart they are and belittling people like me who are just trying to learn. maybe these people have small penises or their parents didnt love them but thats no excuse. Sorry for the rant this one guy really pissed me off.
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    So how long is too long to run T3 around 75mg?
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    Quote Originally Posted by threeFs View Post
    So how long is too long to run T3 around 75mg?
    Multiple studies show complete recovery after years of"abuse"
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    Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post

    Multiple studies show complete recovery after years of"abuse"
    OK good, I will run an IV then. Sounds like a challenge
    Seriously, thanks though. I just like to hear again, peace of mind
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeBrooklyn View Post
    I'm happy with my initial BF losses but for the past 2 weeks I have not lost any. I want to make tweaks to my diet but there is so much information out there and so much of it conflicts. I have called a dietitian and am willing to pay for help; but I appreciate your repsonse. There are some ass holes on this site who shall remain nameless who go around telling people how smart they are and belittling people like me who are just trying to learn. maybe these people have small penises or their parents didnt love them but thats no excuse. Sorry for the rant this one guy really pissed me off.
    I hear you bro not sure why ppl cant just have a conversation without the BS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vassille View Post
    I hear you bro not sure why ppl cant just have a conversation without the BS.
    Yea, I'm not sure either. I actually texted the guy who gave me wrong information about EQ that led to Rodja lashing into me with his sarcasm and his response was: "Also do me a favor if you want to second guess everything you paid me to teach you keep it to yourself. I know WTF I'm talking about and get paid for my knowledge and I could give a **** about every gym morons opinion."

    This guy is a trainer and also sells AAS and this was his response to me telling him that EQ is different from Deca and how Rodja belittled me on that ignorance. So I have Rodja on one end and this guy on the other. I feel like I'm the only adult. Why can't people who claim to be so knowledgeable expound on their knowledge without getting touchy, angry and insulting? How can anyone learn or take anyone seriously when this is the stuff that is thrown around? Very sad.
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    Hey man, it's only the internet. Just let it go. I'm not sure why anyone would be concerned with the opinions from people they have never met.
    There are lots of guys here who are genuine and do care to help. There are others who are only deemed with rep points. It's your job to differentiate, take what you find useful, and expand through further research (which it sounds like you are already doing)
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeBrooklyn View Post

    Yea, I'm not sure either. I actually texted the guy who gave me wrong information about EQ that led to Rodja lashing into me with his sarcasm and his response was: "Also do me a favor if you want to second guess everything you paid me to teach you keep it to yourself. I know WTF I'm talking about and get paid for my knowledge and I could give a **** about every gym morons opinion."

    This guy is a trainer and also sells AAS and this was his response to me telling him that EQ is different from Deca and how Rodja belittled me on that ignorance. So I have Rodja on one end and this guy on the other. I feel like I'm the only adult. Why can't people who claim to be so knowledgeable expound on their knowledge without getting touchy, angry and insulting? How can anyone learn or take anyone seriously when this is the stuff that is thrown around? Very sad.
    I care. I've been reading about situation, I wanna help. Have u ever tried ECA?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    I care. I've been reading about situation, I wanna help. Have u ever tried ECA?
    No, what is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeBrooklyn View Post

    No, what is it?
    25mg Ephedrine, 200mg caffeine, and baby aspirin. Taken 2-3 times a day. Its the best fat burning combination I've ever used and will use. I know u said you're diet is pretty good, I would give this a try. And maybe a small dose of T3 say 25mcg/day will give u the boost u need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    25mg Ephedrine, 200mg caffeine, and baby aspirin. Taken 2-3 times a day. Its the best fat burning combination I've ever used and will use. I know u said you're diet is pretty good, I would give this a try. And maybe a small dose of T3 say 25mcg/day will give u the boost u need.
    Is this something I can make myself or is it a pill I can buy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeBrooklyn View Post

    Is this something I can make myself or is it a pill I can buy?
    U can get everything at CVS or like Walgreens. Bronkaid pills from the pharmacy, they contain the Ephedrine, then caffeine pills and baby aspirin r in one of the aisles. U don't need a prescription for Bronkaid. Take one pill of each together 2 to 3 times a day. You'll spend less than $30.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    U can get everything at CVS or like Walgreens. Bronkaid pills from the pharmacy, they contain the Ephedrine, then caffeine pills and baby aspirin r in one of the aisles. U don't need a prescription for Bronkaid. Take one pill of each together 2 to 3 times a day. You'll spend less than $30.
    Wow, thank you man. I will try it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeBrooklyn View Post

    Wow, thank you man. I will try it out.
    No problem bro. Idk how stim-tolerant u r but prepare for some crazy energy lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    No problem bro. Idk how stim-tolerant u r but prepare for some crazy energy lol.
    I'm going to love it then...
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    This was my second day on ECA, taking it three times a day and wow do I feel wired. How long should I be on this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeBrooklyn View Post
    This was my second day on ECA, taking it three times a day and wow do I feel wired. How long should I be on this?
    Take a picture of your dk because at those doses, its going to disappear
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeBrooklyn View Post
    This was my second day on ECA, taking it three times a day and wow do I feel wired. How long should I be on this?
    I usually get off at a month and take a week off then hop on again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by threeFs View Post
    Take a picture of your dk because at those doses, its going to disappear
    Uhh, can you explain?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    I usually get off at a month and take a week off then hop on again.
    Hey, did you read the guy above. He said my penis will disappear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeBrooklyn View Post

    Hey, did you read the guy above. He said my penis will disappear.
    Lol not true. He's f*cking with u lol. I've ran ECA plenty of times. I'm on it right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post

    Lol not true. He's f*cking with u lol. I've ran ECA plenty of times. I'm on it right now.
    Well you've always had a tiny pecker!

    But really though, that doesn't happen to you guys? One time I took so much ephedra to stay awake on a road trip that I couldn't take a piss. Stim-dīck? Nobody? Never?
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    I know that caffien and ephedra restrict blood flow which can have an adverse effect on erections and make your penis look smaller in the flacid state; but it shouldnt literally shrink it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by threeFs View Post

    Well you've always had a tiny pecker!

    But really though, that doesn't happen to you guys? One time I took so much ephedra to stay awake on a road trip that I couldn't take a piss. Stim-dīck? Nobody? Never?
    Lol it happens but I'd have to take more for that. I'm on Formasurge right now so my libido is good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    Lol it happens but I'd have to take more for that. I'm on Formasurge right now so my libido is good.
    I'm already on Aromasin for cycle support so any anti-estrogen like Formasurge might bring it down too much. Besides, blood flow is not about libido.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeBrooklyn View Post

    I'm already on Aromasin for cycle support so any anti-estrogen like Formasurge might bring it down too much. Besides, blood flow is not about libido.
    I know. DAA would help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by threeFs View Post

    Well you've always had a tiny pecker!

    But really though, that doesn't happen to you guys? One time I took so much ephedra to stay awake on a road trip that I couldn't take a piss. Stim-dīck? Nobody? Never?
    Just you man lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EatMoar View Post

    Just you man lol.
    Yeah, that's why I don't look down too often
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    I know. DAA would help.
    DAA on cycle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeBrooklyn View Post

    DAA on cycle?
    I forgot u were on cycle.
  

  
 

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