First Epistane Cycle

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by threeFs View Post
    Epi (havoc) was my favorite compared to hdrol. I ran a log about it and it was really an awesome run until PCT. I was shut down hard and my torem was bunk. My testosterone level was 60ng/dl (lowest I've ever seen from anybody). So I can say that if you're undecided on a SERM, plan on TRT if your body doesn't recover. Granted I'm 35 so that surely has an effect. Or you could be fine and recover quickly, nobody knows.

    Also, agreed on not starting with 10mg or even 20mg. Those could be best suited to make your 30 into a 40 for a few days.
    Have you since gone on trt? What did your numbers get back to after a few months? I am stuck with rc so I have backups of serms and ai's, people always say this rc is bunk and this one is legit, but I think they are only as good as the raws and at some point in time all of them might have put out bunk which s why there are conflicting views so often.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by stamp_on_kids View Post

    Have you since gone on trt? What did your numbers get back to after a few months? I am stuck with rc so I have backups of serms and ai's, people always say this rc is bunk and this one is legit, but I think they are only as good as the raws and at some point in time all of them might have put out bunk which s why there are conflicting views so often.
    Yeah, I kind of agree with that about RC. One place used to send the "3rd party lab results" but they quit doing that. Whatever, backups backups backups.
    TRT has me around 550-600
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  3. Also consider antaeus lab aegis for further liver protection, its kinda expensive but its created considering the use of orals.

    Im almost done with my epic cycle as well and I confirm what the guys told you, keep at least 30 and move later on at 40, take 20 just the first couple of days to test if your body has negative reactions to it.

    I suggest you to also keep an AI close, apparently in some guys epi can cause gino instead of killing it, guess everyone is different.
    I noticed something strange on my nipples at week3 and dealt it with a pump of formeron after shower before bedtime and it solved it, didnt pushed too much with it thinking about joints.

    Also all the sides I experienced happened the first two weeks, like a big pimple right in the middle of the nose or some pulsing on my eyes.

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  5. Quote Originally Posted by Monte_Cristo View Post
    Also consider antaeus lab aegis for further liver protection, its kinda expensive but its created considering the use of orals.

    Im almost done with my epic cycle as well and I confirm what the guys told you, keep at least 30 and move later on at 40, take 20 just the first couple of days to test if your body has negative reactions to it.

    I suggest you to also keep an AI close, apparently in some guys epi can cause gino instead of killing it, guess everyone is different.
    I noticed something strange on my nipples at week3 and dealt it with a pump of formeron after shower before bedtime and it solved it, didnt pushed too much with it thinking about joints.

    Also all the sides I experienced happened the first two weeks, like a big pimple right in the middle of the nose or some pulsing on my eyes.
    If you don't mind me asking, what brand of Epi did you use? I've actually heard similar things but never from someone using IBE. Ik it's supposedly the same compound but who's a chemist here and really checking it?
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  6. Also, I must admit that I know very little about AI's. Is that something you take as needed, during cycle or post cycle? I'm going to look it up now but any input helps...

  7. Quote Originally Posted by GetBig1221 View Post

    If you don't mind me asking, what brand of Epi did you use? I've actually heard similar things but never from someone using IBE. Ik it's supposedly the same compound but who's a chemist here and really checking it?
    Same compound, just a diffrent way of writing it.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by GetBig1221 View Post
    If you don't mind me asking, what brand of Epi did you use? I've actually heard similar things but never from someone using IBE. Ik it's supposedly the same compound but who's a chemist here and really checking it?
    I dont know if the board rules allow me to name brands but if its fine I'll tell you no problem, the compound Im taking works pretty good but I guess Im just one of the lucky guys to be gino prone if pushed.

    Regarding AI's they are simply aromatase inhibitors which means they avoid aromatase enzyme to convert part of your testosterone in estrogens, you usually take one anytime you are using a compound which is prone to be aromatized (epistane apparently is not one) while at the same time you take one during pct to avoid rebounds following the use of serms which kickstart your test production.

    Some guys also run them standalone looking to get dry, I run myself formeron for 2 weeks in many and dried me really much, my face looked great only after 48 hours.

  9. Hey guys,

    I've been doing my precycle and I'm about to start my cycle in a few days. The one main problem I've had is that the CEL Cycle Assist pills are pretty big. I have a narrow throat and have actually choked pretty bad a few times. Now, I don't like to take a lot of chances. I've been breaking the capsules apart and just putting the contents in my Muscle Milk in the morning and my pro7ein shake at night. As long as I can bare the taste, this isn't that big of a deal, right?

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  11. Just want to update everyone. I'm on day 3 and just took my first 20mg dose this morning. I plan on working out in about an hour. On day 1, I worked out chest and lifted about 5 lbs more than normal even without any pre-workout. I kind of expected a slip without the caffeine but there wasn't any. On day 2, I worked out just my triceps. I wanted to hit them pretty hard. Today (Day 3), I plan on working out shoulders and back. I'll let you know how it goes. Tomorrow (Day 4), I plan on working out legs and then, depending on how I feel, I'll either workout Chest on day 5 or take a rest/ab day.

    It's funny, this being my first prohormone cycle, I just figured that as soon as I took the first pill, I'd feel sides. I took my 20mg this morning and have no issues. I don't expect any when I take my 10mg night dose either. Call me crazy, but I do notice slightly more vascularity already.

    Nonetheless, here's a pic of me when I started my pre-cycle and another after taking my first 10mg epistane and going through my first chest workout.

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  12. im in my 3rd week of pct and still gaining!!! slowly, but still. altogether i have put on a good 11lbs i love me some epi

  13. Quote Originally Posted by fame126 View Post
    im in my 3rd week of pct and still gaining!!! slowly, but still. altogether i have put on a good 11lbs i love me some epi
    Same here last epi taken on saturday and today managed to do the same weights from last week but with a little bit less effort, curious to see how is gonna be on friday at the bench press which is the one where epi pushed me the most.

  14. Yeah? That's awesome bro. Keep up the hard work and eat well. I'm not really doing it for the weight gain per say. I'm doing mine more for recomp. I was to tone up and keep muscle while cutting the fat. Hopefully, I'll put on some nice lean mass!

  15. Quote Originally Posted by GetBig1221 View Post
    Yeah? That's awesome bro. Keep up the hard work and eat well. I'm not really doing it for the weight gain per say. I'm doing mine more for recomp. I was to tone up and keep muscle while cutting the fat. Hopefully, I'll put on some nice lean mass!
    your definitely gonna be happy with results just put in the work and the rest will come easy

  16. Yup this will be your best cycle ever so don't hold back. Make sure diet is bang on. I usually add about 1000 cals while on but yes you should gain about 12 on and keep 10. Enjoy!
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