Would it be possible to run anything along the lines of clomid/nolva/arimadex/etc. As a standalone cycle for how ever long, to take the place of using designer anti e and aromotose products?
Off course it would.Would it be possible to run anything along the lines of clomid/nolva/arimadex/etc. As a standalone cycle for how ever long, to take the place of using designer anti e and aromotose products?
Clomid has a study of its use as a TRT replacement 25mg if I remeber correctly.Would it be possible to run anything along the lines of clomid/nolva/arimadex/etc. As a standalone cycle for how ever long, to take the place of using designer anti e and aromotose products?
How was 6-oxo for you?The purpose of this would be to help keep estrogen under control. I would be looking for the overall feeling of well being that you experience when your test and estro are at the right levels, while helping to control a little bloat and some water rentention. Also, help with libido, body fat, and overall mood. I have had great results with products such as 6 oxo in the past, but am looking for something a little stronger with similar results.
Stimulating test production would be a major plus as well.
Well there was a study of people taking it as TRT which is not really a cycle its forever but if it works for TRT it should also in theory work for any other "cycle" you want..weeks, months, years...Ultimately, i want to stop messing around with all of these natty test boosters and herbal supps that im buying and look for something that is proven ans more potent in terma of the reasons i stated about. How long is that clomid cycle meant to be, in place of trt? 25mg each day or eod?
Serms I know for a fact hamper muscle building because they increase test but lower igf1 and other hormones.I hear ya. I didnt neccessarily mean "supplement" i understand its a potent drug. Jusy trying to find out the benefita of doing this.
Any othet suggestion as far as nolva or arimadex?
Erase. Give erase a shot before you jump on something that could hinder fitness progression.Iv experienced a bit of water retention, bloat, moody, etc. Plus, iv always enjoyed the overall feeling i had while ln estrogen modulating supps.
Agree with you Pyro.....try something like erase or finaflex PCT revolution before going down this line.Erase. Give erase a shot before you jump on something that could hinder fitness progression.
The people on clomid for pct are on it because they need it. Men do need estrogen and the pharmacy grade ais literally destroy estrogen. This can cause health issues later down the line. The over the counter stuff is not going to destroy estrogen just bring it down a bit.
Although some blood work out there on erase leads me to believe it could be used as an on cycle ai
How did you dose it?I have used erase recently.
I've gone up to 150mg of arimistane(3caps of revolution pct black by finaflex).I think it was either 2 ed or 2 eod
Ohh baby one of my favorite stacks right there.I've gone up to 150mg of arimistane(3caps of revolution pct black by finaflex).
I liked it....lots of guys like arimistane.
Stack it with some DAA, should be a nice run.
Anyway, keep us posted what route you're taking.
Good luck....
Lots of websites sell it....nutra planet usually has the best deals.Is that a supp u can buy in store?
You want to lower your estrogen, to get a better test to estrogen ratio.Ok cool, never used it before do was just curious. Im asduming you mention it because it will deliver the benefits i mentioned i am seeking?
Please supply a study that shows this fact. While I know there are studies showing that clomid \SERM's lower IGF-1 I have yet to see one that has even looked at this lower of igf-1 induced by clomid in relation to muscle growth this might be a case where the increase in Testosterone over comes the limiting of IGF-1...or you may need peptides to over come this potential issue. I am not saying the OP should do this honestly I doubt he would benefit much if at all unless he needs TRT .Serms I know for a fact hamper muscle building because they increase test but lower igf1 and other hormones.
Idk about arimadex
Igf1 and growth hormone. Clomid lowers these. There doesn't need to be a study to confirm you need these 2 for muscle growth. There's a reason you only take serms long enough to recover and don't do cycles. The people on trt who take clomid need it for several reasons. Namingly the ability to have kids. Straight test injections aka steroids lower fertility. Clomid does not. Or some doctors like to try rebooting instead of injections which is good.Please supply a study that shows this fact. While I know there are studies showing that clomid \SERM's lower IGF-1 I have yet to see one that has even looked at this lower of igf-1 induced by clomid in relation to muscle growth this might be a case where the increase in Testosterone over comes the limiting of IGF-1...or you may need peptides to over come this potential issue. I am not saying the OP should do this honestly I doubt he would benefit much if at all unless he needs TRT .
Not trying to seem argumentative I just don't see this as an established fact.
My point is that it is shown to lower not stop production of IGF-1 so that means the body is still producing some is it enough to continue muscle growth with the elevated Testosterone levels....yes,no,maybe so I must disagree you need a study to say anything for certain. Anything less is pure conjecture but by no means is it a fact.Igf1 and growth hormone. Clomid lowers these. There doesn't need to be a study to confirm you need these 2 for muscle growth. There's a reason you only take serms long enough to recover and don't do cycles. The people on trt who take clomid need it for several reasons. Namingly the ability to have kids. Straight test injections aka steroids lower fertility. Clomid does not. Or some doctors like to try rebooting instead of injections which is good.
Clomid helps do this.
Test,growth hormone and igf1 are all important for muscle growth.
Interesting. I wont personally risk it though.My point is that it is shown to lower not stop production of IGF-1 so that means the body is still producing some is it enough to continue muscle growth with the elevated Testosterone levels....yes,no,maybe so I must disagree you need a study to say anything for certain. Anything less is pure conjecture but by no means is it a fact.
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I think that would be the smarter choice, I myself would try something like 6oxo or Erase for over the counter given what the OP stated his symptoms to be.Interesting. I wont personally risk it though.
Yes it is, but given I am still waiting on my last order which was placed at the beginning of April I would not order from them again unless they make this really right....google 6 oxo powder. it's still around.
6oxo and ATD are not banned but the FDA claims ATD is a drug not a supplement so its hard to find and 6oxo was believed to contain minuscule amounts if androstendione so it was pulled for the safety of company selling it if I remember correctly.As far as the finaflex supp goes, you like it best at 3 caps a day? For how many weeks and how many weeks off? What is the ideal way to dose, all at once, spkit up, am? You mentioned stacking with daa and i see its in there already.
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Maybe ill try this one out before trying the erase pro. Anyone have experience with both that can chime in?
Howcome a product like 6 oxo and novedex can get banned, but ones such as this and erase arent?
Suggest to take 2 or 3 bedtime. On an empty stomage.I am definitely going to try the arimastane by fineflec after my current cycle of freetest.
Anyone have dosing suggestions?
I've never used revolution or erase more than 8 consecutive weeks without a 4 week break. I would guess they would start to lose effectiveness without a break.Would it be a possibiluty to run a low dose of erase or revolution black for a longer period of time to help better control estrogen, as a type of staple supplement? Say 1 or 2 caps a day or every other?
Might have a hard time finding someone with a first hand experience doing this. Search for a research study on arimastane. Might give you the details you are looking for.I was thinking that a low dose, long term, would just help to actively manage estro levels. But wanted to hear.some input on the neg sides that are possible. Maybe long term with a week break here and there may help to avoid loosing its kick
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