First cycle what do you think?
- 04-28-2013, 10:44 PM
So you already know by the title this will be my first cycle.
But first here's a brief HISTORY.
Im 28 and have been working out seriously for 6-7 years. I've done supplementing, macro breakdowns, and have been through all kinds of workouts (I was a personal trainernfor 2 years). Recently i've come to the conclusion where curiousity has gotten the best of me and have decided i want to run my very first AAS cycle. Through a lot of reading and my own research i've come to the conclusion that running a cycle of test and anavar sounded great for me. Keep in mind i have already been down the pro hormone road halodrol and superdrol, with halodrol working best for me. Superdrol was to harsh on me and i guess it didnt take right with my body not to sure why. Halodrol even at 25-50mgs a day tightened up my whole body and i felt great so that was enjoyable.
To have an enjoyable and safe first experience with aas and mainly to cut down and be better than i would be normally
Blood test this week hopefully if all goes well starting May6th
To run 200-250mgs of test prop a week for 12 weeks
(Chose test prop bc its easier to control levels and great for cutting with less bloat)
The last 6 weeks throw in some var at around 30-50mgs ed
(Already have the var and the test will be in anyday now)
Have nolvadex on hand
Hcg will be here mid cycle
Arimidex is a phone call away
Prone to anxiety wasn't sure if this cycle of aas might trigger that?
For example first time taking halodrol i was very nervous with how my body would react. (Have been since ive had an allergic reaction with something when i was a kid and it caused me to be rushed to the hospital and choking for air not pleasant)
Is the first time pinning more anxiety than it's actually worth? As far as it's not a big deal?
Any words of advice or encouragement for this cycle?
Any critiquing you see or can make would be much appreciated. (No aggressive comments please seriously just looking for guidance more or less)
- 04-28-2013, 11:13 PM
Your mg levels look a bit low also, I'm assuming you plan to pin 50-75mg eod? Even for a first cycle you could probably do better at 100 eod, especially if you do shorten the cycle.
As for the pinning and such, unless you have a big needle phobia it's not a big deal. I actually loved it and couldn't wait for my next pin ha. It's like people say about getting a tattoo/piercing, very addictive.
My suggestion would be to take your 12 weeks, use the first 4 to begin a hard, natty cut. Then, once you begin to get a bit worn and need a boost, jump into your cycle which would now be 8 weeks. This way, you'll get a huge performance boost, already have a good base going, and not waste your gear those last few weeks when it wouldn't be doing much.
04-28-2013, 11:19 PM
Thanks much appreciated. So there's no benefit for running a 12 week cycle of prop really? I was reading that after 4 weeks im already shut down. I have already started to cut natty also i forgot to add.
04-28-2013, 11:20 PM
And yes i was thinking 250mgs a week to see how my body handles the surplus all of the sudden. And yes the var would be everyday
04-28-2013, 11:33 PM
For reference what did you have planned for pct?
04-29-2013, 08:51 AM
Well thats also the reason i wanted to run 250mgs a week instead of 400-500.. And for pct i plan on taking nolva and hcg.....
Side note i've heard a lot of ppl have bad experiences with nolva, ie.- dizziness, blurred vision, nausea, and blood clotting? Thats not too comforting lol but its what i have already idk how true that is.
04-29-2013, 09:36 AM
04-29-2013, 09:38 AM
You also have to realize once you are shut down you are basically taking a trt dose, so halfway thru your cycle you are going to be like a guy with just really high natty test levels
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04-29-2013, 02:19 PM
I highly recommend doubling your dose of var, 30-50mg is low and u won't b satisfied with the results. 75mg would b much better.
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04-30-2013, 02:53 PM
Doing the same cycle starting tomorrow! Haha. Its also my first cycle and i cant wait.
I dont want to hi jack your thread, but if you want we can keep it going together and ill post my layout.
04-30-2013, 03:04 PM
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04-30-2013, 05:54 PM
Training for about 10 years and have experience with SARMS and Transdermals. I know for sure that I am gyno prone so I have to keep Letro on hand and run a AI with this cycle. I still have a pebble behind my nipple from my last run with Transaderm/Osta but as soon as I jumped on Aromasin the mass decreased in size, but has not fully gone away. I was thinking of running the Letro at the beginning, but I will just see how it goes.
Goal is to cut and lower BF % while increasing LBM. Here is what my cycle looks like:
1-10 Test Prop 100mg EOD
1-10 Aromasin 12.5 EOD
3-12 Anavar 80mg ED
9-10 HCG 500 ius week
11-12 HCG 1000 ius week
Aromasin 12.5 EOD
04-30-2013, 07:52 PM
04-30-2013, 07:56 PM
Ok, first, from someone who is on TRT at about 200/week, 250mg/week is basically just replacing the test you would have been making before it shut you down, maybe slightly higher but not enough to see a difference really. That is a TRT level dose. You will waste your money, time, and take risks with sides like infection and shutting down your HPTA just to do what your body was doing without... You should be looking at 400-500mg/week for your first cycle. Prop is stronger per mg so maybe 350 work for you while still being very low and safe getting your feet wet.
So 100mg EOD is probably good to start if you're anxious about the effects, BUT it's not a pro hormone or designer steroid, your body already runs on test and the freaky sides people get from orals are non-existent here. Nothing to be anxious about... I'm an anxious guy and can't hardly do even the mild PH/DS so I understand the anxiety, but test is nice. No comparison
Var. I don't know. I have always been happy with very low doses with orals but I have never used var and don't know what you'd be happy with. I just know I'd run the Test at a reasonable dosage like 350-500mg and if you low-dose the var for a little bump, fine. You might like it that way.
Nolva is also taken for 5 years straight by cancer patients so the sides listed in the warnings are at the extremes. Blood clots are my only fear there and I take 81mg aspirin before bed daily while on it and stop worrying.
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