First cycle what do you think?
- 04-30-2013, 03:22 PM
- 04-30-2013, 03:43 PM
04-30-2013, 05:54 PM
Training for about 10 years and have experience with SARMS and Transdermals. I know for sure that I am gyno prone so I have to keep Letro on hand and run a AI with this cycle. I still have a pebble behind my nipple from my last run with Transaderm/Osta but as soon as I jumped on Aromasin the mass decreased in size, but has not fully gone away. I was thinking of running the Letro at the beginning, but I will just see how it goes.
Goal is to cut and lower BF % while increasing LBM. Here is what my cycle looks like:
1-10 Test Prop 100mg EOD
1-10 Aromasin 12.5 EOD
3-12 Anavar 80mg ED
9-10 HCG 500 ius week
11-12 HCG 1000 ius week
Aromasin 12.5 EOD
04-30-2013, 07:52 PM
04-30-2013, 07:56 PM
Ok, first, from someone who is on TRT at about 200/week, 250mg/week is basically just replacing the test you would have been making before it shut you down, maybe slightly higher but not enough to see a difference really. That is a TRT level dose. You will waste your money, time, and take risks with sides like infection and shutting down your HPTA just to do what your body was doing without... You should be looking at 400-500mg/week for your first cycle. Prop is stronger per mg so maybe 350 work for you while still being very low and safe getting your feet wet.
So 100mg EOD is probably good to start if you're anxious about the effects, BUT it's not a pro hormone or designer steroid, your body already runs on test and the freaky sides people get from orals are non-existent here. Nothing to be anxious about... I'm an anxious guy and can't hardly do even the mild PH/DS so I understand the anxiety, but test is nice. No comparison
Var. I don't know. I have always been happy with very low doses with orals but I have never used var and don't know what you'd be happy with. I just know I'd run the Test at a reasonable dosage like 350-500mg and if you low-dose the var for a little bump, fine. You might like it that way.
Nolva is also taken for 5 years straight by cancer patients so the sides listed in the warnings are at the extremes. Blood clots are my only fear there and I take 81mg aspirin before bed daily while on it and stop worrying.
04-30-2013, 08:02 PM
I will probably take ur advice and bump it up to 300mgs a week then thank u
04-30-2013, 08:04 PM
04-30-2013, 08:05 PM
One more thing. As mentioned, do NOT use HCG as part of PCT. it should be used at low doses on cycle so that there isn't much testicular atrophy, and less recovery needed during PCT. But because it replaces LH, it will only stop you from recovering once the cycle is over
Start HCG maybe 2-4 weeks into your cycle at just 250iu two times a week. Short ester test like prop, stop the HCG when you stop the test. Start your SERM and enjoy a quick recovery.
04-30-2013, 08:13 PM
HCG if used, 500iu wk
Suicidal AI if needed
Aspirin on hand
Drink lots of water
Eat lots of protein
Make sure you have a legit AI though, not bunk. It will ruin your day, lol
I like aromasin (exemestane) because there is no estrogen rebound. but use a good source and know that it is g2g.
04-30-2013, 08:22 PM
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04-30-2013, 10:34 PM
05-01-2013, 12:08 PM
I started today and will keep you posted on my progress guys. Looking forward to this run.
1cc of test prop and 12.5mg of Aromasin today.
05-01-2013, 09:44 PM
People ripped on me for my cycle layout when I wanted to run Hdrol at just 50mg daily. I didn't feel comfortable upping to 75 or 100 like everyone else was, but I did because everyone told me what I was doing was ridiculous and a waste. My BP went through the roof and I had a panic attack and racing heart for hours...
Listen to your body and do it your own way, just take the information and experience of others to help you decide what your way is...
05-01-2013, 10:32 PM
05-03-2013, 01:49 PM
Under what circumstances do you need to use caber? I don't have caber on hand and wanted to know if that is needed in a Prop/Var cycle. ??
05-03-2013, 02:17 PM
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05-03-2013, 05:19 PM
05-07-2013, 12:21 PM
Wanted to know if there is a certain number of times or cc's you can shoot into one muscle group? I have been going EOD into glutes only, 1cc but I think I'm about to step up to 1.5 cc. Thoughts?
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