Still havent cycled..worth it?
- 04-24-2013, 12:54 AM
- 04-24-2013, 12:57 AM
Oh and this is me right now. I want to do physique competitions and dont know how much bigger I really should get for my height(5'10)
04-24-2013, 01:37 AM
04-24-2013, 06:28 PM
04-25-2013, 12:33 AM
04-25-2013, 12:33 AM
that is all I got for ya bro....my 2cents. Again with regards to competing I am clueless who to guide you there
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04-25-2013, 12:56 AM
I guess my main thing is how much of change should I expect?. I dont want to be steppin into the massy body builder look. Not that I dont think body building is badass. Anyways all this stuff is legal gear though. Pro hormones are still around and apparentlly some give badass results. Thanks for any input
04-25-2013, 01:07 AM
04-25-2013, 01:12 AM
04-25-2013, 01:19 AM
you look pretty damn aesthetic, no homo. one cycle of hdrol or epi would put on about 8-15 lbs depending on your diet. you wont look like a freak after a cycle of them, but if a little extra mass is what you want, they will do the job.
04-25-2013, 01:32 AM
04-25-2013, 11:33 AM
That dmz is a type of superdrol correct? What are the differences and type of gains? Maintainable or wet?
Out of halo, epi, or dmz what would allow me to keep the most? Ive heard even on halo you only gain like 5 after pct is done and all..that doesnt really sound worth the stress
My stats are
120 lbs dumbells bench for 5-6
90s shoulder press for 8
Calves suck 15.5inch
5% body fat
04-25-2013, 11:34 AM
04-25-2013, 11:36 AM
I know that the older the better. I wish I could get my test levels checked bc sadly I still dont have a full beard yet, so dont know how theyd effect my body and stuff like that
04-25-2013, 11:41 AM
04-25-2013, 11:43 AM
04-25-2013, 12:00 PM
If I do pct I would get either torm with clomid or nolvadex with clomid. So if you gain say 15 lbs of muscle you could expect to keep like 12...thats sick. Does dmz aromitize at all?
04-25-2013, 12:02 PM
I don't think you need any cycles at all you are aesthetic as **** and big like hell. You compete on physique shows so I guess you are a muscle model. IYou can do a cycle for bringing up your lagging points such as calves maybe some chest. But you have an excellent physique though and many in here are using PH to achieve this physique. If you gain more muscle mass you ain't gonna be a muscle model anymore. You will be more like a mini Olympia Body builder. Well that's only my opinion though... good luck! (I was kidding with the mini Olympia but I hope you get me point)
That's me 8 months ago
04-25-2013, 12:54 PM
At 21 you are to young to think about cycling, you are nowhere near your genetic limit.
In addition you body is in the middle of its natural hormonal output. If you don't have a full beard yet, it's sounds like you are a late bloomer, which means your peak test levels are still ahead of you. You have done some fantastic work, and if you keep paying attention to your training and diet you will continue to make great gains.
04-25-2013, 02:07 PM
Ahh thats probably what I needed to hear. Especially the part about loosing he physique look. I really just wish I had some good calves and sicker shoulders. Also having abs like what you got in your pic would be awesome!
I think deep down I knew I should hold off on the cycle, but seeing the younger kids get on gear and make gains so quickly really realllly tempts you..
04-25-2013, 02:09 PM
COOKIE1 has sick ass abs haha
Idk wish I could just be happy, but its hard and I am almost at a point I dont know which direction to go as far as sculpting my body
Another side note is I am worried all the pros and clomid and stuff wont be around years to come when I am of age to cycle
04-25-2013, 02:17 PM
Dude, you are huge and have great definition. I would not go anywhere near PHs if I looked like that.
04-25-2013, 02:23 PM
That's me 8 months ago
04-25-2013, 06:32 PM
Cookie1 tell me how your cycle goes if you do decide on it. Thanks for all the positive comments guys. From what it sounds like I should just hold off on a cycle and be happy with where I am at. In fact this past week Idk what happened, but my clean bulk diet really kicked in. Since my last cut I have finally got all my strength and size up and feeling great, so I realized why mess up whats already working.
My biggest fears were messing up my naturally fast metablisim off cycle and also ****in up hormone levels where I could no longer naturally make gains. Long story short I am going to enjoy my natural test and fast metablisim while I got it!!
On a side note the biggest thig again was seeing all these 17 year old kids mess with gear...got me jealous foresure bc they gained so much quicker then me and slacked as well. Some are now fat though
04-25-2013, 06:45 PM
Like they all said with pct and using non aromitizing compounds you will be fine...no stunted growth or ****ed up hormone levels..how true? Haha
I am curious to how "smart" they are
04-25-2013, 06:54 PM
04-25-2013, 06:56 PM
I mean I was always an advocate that it was terrible at that age, but at the same time like arnold the great started at 16. How the hell did he not screw himself up starting so young!?
Like what all bad does it do at that age. I gym cool with some and would like to have solid facts to back up what I say.
04-25-2013, 07:00 PM
Sorry I didn't mean flame you there, not talking directly about you, just in general trying to make a point
04-25-2013, 07:06 PM
04-25-2013, 07:20 PM
Sps no worries you didnt flame. I wish kids would at least get a base like me before getting into stuff. Dont even get me going bc I feel like everyone is so much lazier and impatient in this day. Technology and other variables have lead to a society that wants immediate everything. Wish roids were still legal bc at least theyre effects are well known and most are less harsh on the body. Furthermore if it was doctor supervised kids couldnt get on em...like pro hormones are so easy to get a hold of and just as or more detrimental. Also very valid points on Arny...he is also fat now lol
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