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    What to kickstart cycle prop test and winstrol


    Hello everyone !

    i'm just finishing my first cycle

    test e 600mg week 10wk x oxandrolone 60mg week 6week
    plus added on the last weeks a clembuterol for shredding

    and was wondering how it would be my next cycle i thought it like this

    Prop test 1-10 600mg a week , Stanozolol ( winstrol ) 100mg EOD for 6 last weeks
    and thought about DBOL with AI for kickstart the cycle , but then i remebered that i could buy some PH in usa ( ps: im from brazil )


    so , what is better to kick start this cycle ? Dbol ? Tbol ? Superdrol ? m-sten ?

    looking for a clean BULK cycle...

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    Quote Originally Posted by henriqueareia View Post

    so , what is better to kick start this cycle ? Dbol ? Tbol ? Superdrol ? m-sten ?

    looking for a clean BULK cycle...
    Tbol
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    I'm kicking with Dbol for my test-e in June.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killler View Post
    Tbol
    X2...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaylorSwift View Post
    I'm kicking with Dbol for my test-e in June.
    x2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killler View Post
    Tbol
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post

    X2...
    x3 , WAY less side from tbol. If that would be a concern.
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    x2.
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    wtb TBOL 80mg for 4 week ?

    cycle of prop test and winstrol(stanozolol)
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    Quote Originally Posted by henriqueareia View Post
    wtb TBOL 80mg for 4 week ?

    cycle of prop test and winstrol(stanozolol)
    80mg a day is alot bro and 4wks is a bit on the short side. I would go 6wks and look into burst dosing the tbol. Easier on the pumps and the liver overall.
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    u think 80mg is alot ? i just wanna a big mass kickstart because i'll do

    1-4 tbol how many mg ? and should raise to 6 weeks ?
    1-10 Prop test 200mg , 3x week
    5-10 Stanozolol ( Winstrol ) 100mg EOD

    60mg of tbol for 6 weeks ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post

    X2...
    Dude wtf? Where the hell did u disappear too? U fell of the face of the earth.
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    I'm a big superdrol fan. Lean dry huge gains. Insane strength. Sides are negligible at 20mgs a day for me, doesn't mean they wouldn't be for you but since your going to run winny in the back half with no apparent break from orals I'd suggest something with low to no liver toxicity or nothing at all. 6 weeks is a long time for 1 oral 10 weeks with 2 different ones is a bit much. How about furuzabol something similar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigShadow View Post

    Dude wtf? Where the hell did u disappear too? U fell of the face of the earth.
    Speaking of which where the f have you been? I'm starting my tren e in 2 weeks. Already on test eq dbol and drol. :-D
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    My stanozolol is inject ! 100mg EOD
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    Quote Originally Posted by henriqueareia View Post
    My stanozolol is inject ! 100mg EOD
    Still methylated. You could drink it and get the same effects as pins.
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    I have 250 caps of 10mg each
    have 3 options

    1-4 80mg tbol
    1-5 70mg tbol
    1-5 60mg tbol
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigShadow View Post

    Dude wtf? Where the hell did u disappear too? U fell of the face of the earth.
    I'll just say I'm surprised I'm still breathing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superbeast668 View Post

    Speaking of which where the f have you been? I'm starting my tren e in 2 weeks. Already on test eq dbol and drol. :-D
    Haha I've been around man, I'm still on cycle been cruising at 200 mg cyp for the last 5 weeks and started 3 days ago blasting tren ace and prop +cyp for 10 more days then going into pct and will be off for a while. Man I'm gonna miss it.
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    any sugest of tbol kickstart ?

    4 weeks 80mg
    5 weeks 70mg
    6 weeks 60mg ?
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    wtb adding 11-sterone for leaner mass and no fat

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    Quote Originally Posted by henriqueareia View Post
    any sugest of tbol kickstart ?

    4 weeks 80mg
    5 weeks 70mg
    6 weeks 60mg ?
    6 weeks at 60mg
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    i was thinking if i could change the stanozolol inject to oral 60mg ED ?
    Which one would be better?
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    Quote Originally Posted by henriqueareia View Post
    i was thinking if i could change the stanozolol inject to oral 60mg ED ?
    Which one would be better?
    Idt it would make much difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    Idt it would make much difference.
    but witch one would bring more effects in mass gains and size ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by henriqueareia View Post

    but witch one would bring more effects in mass gains and size ?
    It'd b the same.
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    wtb adding 1ml 300mg deca a week just to lubricate the joints and have no problem with stano and joints problem , gonna tale AI so wont bloat i think and low dosage...
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    Quote Originally Posted by henriqueareia View Post
    wtb adding 1ml 300mg deca a week just to lubricate the joints and have no problem with stano and joints problem , gonna tale AI so wont bloat i think and low dosage...
    That would b a good idea actually, but have some caber on hand just in case. .25mg of adex EOD and you'll b good. Why stano though? Just to harden u up more?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    That would b a good idea actually, but have some caber on hand just in case. .25mg of adex EOD and you'll b good. Why stano though? Just to harden u up more?
    Yup just got out of test e 10wks 600mg week and anavar week 5-10 60mg ed so just got alot of bf down , now want to bulk clean ! even with AI i should take caber ? how much a week ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by henriqueareia View Post
    Yup just got out of test e 10wks 600mg week and anavar week 5-10 60mg ed so just got alot of bf down , now want to bulk clean ! even with AI i should take caber ? how much a week ?
    Only take the caber if you need it

    Edit sorry going too fast, .25 mg e3d
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    Alright but since i'll take stano i guess i'll be good because stano lower prolactins levels if im right...
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    Quote Originally Posted by henriqueareia View Post
    Alright but since i'll take stano i guess i'll be good because stano lower prolactins levels if im right...
    Possibly but this is your first run with a 19nor so u can't b sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    Possibly but this is your first run with a 19nor so u can't b sure.
    True , i'll make sure to have caber in hands because any gyno symptoms it can only be prolactin bcs i'll take AI ...
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    What to kickstart cycle prop test and winstrol


    Til now cycle is

    1-10 Test prop 200mg 3 times a week
    1-6 Tbol 60mg
    5-10 Stano 100mg EOD inject or 60mg ED Oral
    1-10 Deca 300mg 1 time a week (lubricate joints bcs of stano)

    wtb adding Epistane 30 or 45mg with TBOl for more shredding agent plus i'll get the estrogen inhibitor of the epi , after finishing epi would start with adex until TPC

    TPC would be 2 days after last injection

    days 1-14 40mg Nolva + 100mg Clomifen
    14-28 20mg Nolva + 50mg Clomi

    Plus i would take Revolution PCT with DPOl and probably Condense

    During cycle gonna use NO Shotgun as pre-workout , Dilatex ( Brazilian Nitric oxide ) , Bcaa , glutamine and Optimen , protein post workout will be Carnivor during the day Casein.
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    Quote Originally Posted by henriqueareia View Post
    Til now cycle is

    1-10 Test prop 200mg 3 times a week
    1-6 Tbol 60mg
    5-10 Stano 100mg EOD inject or 60mg ED Oral
    1-10 Deca 300mg 1 time a week (lubricate joints bcs of stano)

    wtb adding Epistane 30 or 45mg with TBOl for more shredding agent plus i'll get the estrogen inhibitor of the epi , after finishing epi would start with adex until TPC

    TPC would be 2 days after last injection

    days 1-14 40mg Nolva + 100mg Clomifen
    14-28 20mg Nolva + 50mg Clomi

    Plus i would take Revolution PCT with DPOl and probably Condense

    During cycle gonna use NO Shotgun as pre-workout , Dilatex ( Brazilian Nitric oxide ) , Bcaa , glutamine and Optimen , protein post workout will be Carnivor during the day Casein.
    There's no need to stack those 2 orals. Everything looks good but the deca. Its gonna take 4 weeks to clear your system so u should either run it 6 weeks or not at all. Or u could use NPP instead which is nandrolone too but with a very short ester life, nearly the same as prop. Then you'd still b able to start your pct 2 days after your last pin.
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    Alright so epi is out !

    about regular deca only use till 6 week ? so i can start pct 2 days after last prop pin right ? And i was just gonna use deca to lubricate joints bcs of stano , btw npp would bloat me less than regular right ?

    if i choose not to use deca what would you recomend to my joints dont get ***** up ? Arginine ed ? what ?

    Thanks
    Ps: since im taking tbol would be better to go with inject stano ? or this wouldn't really matter bcs both are 17aa ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by henriqueareia View Post
    Alright so epi is out !

    about regular deca only use till 6 week ? so i can start pct 2 days after last prop pin right ? And i was just gonna use deca to lubricate joints bcs of stano , btw npp would bloat me less than regular right ?

    if i choose not to use deca what would you recomend to my joints dont get ***** up ? Arginine ed ? what ?

    Thanks
    Ps: since im taking tbol would be better to go with inject stano ? or this wouldn't really matter bcs both are 17aa ?
    I'd do this:

    Week 1-10 Test prop 600mg/week
    Week 1-6 tbol 60mg Ed
    Week 5-10 Winny 50mg Ed
    Week 1-10 NPP 300mg/week
    Week 1-10 Adex .25mg EOD
    Caber on hand

    Start pct 2 days after last injection.

    Yeah NPP would cause less bloat than DECA and potential for side effects with its short half-life.
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    Probably gonna switch test prop for

    Fourtest ( made by a brazilian lab )
    50mg fenilprop test
    50mg Prop test
    100mg Test E
    100mg Cipio test
    = 300mg

    total 600ng week
    should i trade prop to this ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by henriqueareia View Post
    Probably gonna switch test prop for

    Fourtest ( made by a brazilian lab )
    50mg fenilprop test
    50mg Prop test
    100mg Test E
    100mg Cipio test
    = 300mg

    total 600ng week
    should i trade prop to this ?
    Why would u? You'd still have to pin at least 3x a week.
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    3x a week would be a total of 900mg test/week and thats a lot right ?
    i thought because i talked with a friend who told me not to run tbol with stan for 1 week
    i would do 1-6 tbol and 5-10 stano , and he told me not to run them , and if i choose this test i would do
    1-10 600mg test
    1-6 tbol 60mg ed
    7-12 stano 60mg ed

    bcs of the time for pct of test
  

  
 

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