First cycle ever with Epistane need help and advice
- 04-21-2013, 02:46 AM
First cycle ever with Epistane need help and advice
What's up guys!So this will be my first cycle and I would like your advice about my plan:I've been training for 2 years and I packed a good amount of solid mass around 25-30 pounds.I do the cycle for curiosity and loosing bf while adding LBM reasons!.The cycle will look like that:
stano dosage: 600/800/800/800/1000/1000
Cycle Support :
AI Cycle Support 2.0
DAA dosage: 3g/day
PES ERASE : - / - /3 /3 /3 /2
Nolvadex dosage:, 20/20/10/10
Anabolic designs liver milk 2/2/3/3/
supplements that I'm going to run through out the cycle:
Creatine Monohydrate (5g off days 10g on days)
BCAA lequid form (morning,pre-post/wo ,4th meal)
WHEY Protein 35g (morning and 5th meal)
Weight Gainer 70 protein/150 carbs/10 fat (post workout)
Slow release protein 40/25/7 (30min pre bedtime )
I will start the cycle when I feel physiquelly and mentally ready. I just want to be sure and ready to go,I think its a solid one and ] do you think ill be fine i hope it won't have any permanent sides .I will do a blood - hormone and liver check before cycle and one after pct.
Weight: 212 lbs
bf : 16%
Bench Press 220x12
Squat 235 x13
Shoulder Press 200x12
Arms: 16.4 inches:
I do not deadlift (****ed up back from car accident)
Any good cortisol blocker?
Pre load 1 week before Cycle Support 2.0 with livermilk
Added 2 cycle weeks at 40mgs and stano at 600/800/800/800/1000/1000
Changed epistane first week dosage to 30
Added DS Triazole
- 04-21-2013, 02:49 AM
Pics? Picture says a 1000 words
- 04-21-2013, 02:56 AM
I want to keep my self private and my PC is broken so I can't cut my face off(I posted this via phone). I hope I'll be able to post a picture in a week or so..
04-21-2013, 09:04 AM
Very similar to my first Havoc cycle.
I did Nolva 20/20/10/10 and worked fine.
I also ran Activate Xtreme during PCT, AI Cycle Support throughout cycle (pre-loaded 2 weeks before), and AI post Cycle after.
I had no sides.
04-21-2013, 09:10 AM
Cycle looks good but I think most people would agree that Epi should be run longer than four weeks
04-21-2013, 09:15 AM
04-21-2013, 09:17 AM
04-21-2013, 09:40 AM
Well with the above dosages i have 60 mgs left at the end of the cycle and yeah I can buy one and go for maybe 6weeks my buddy is going to run the same cycle so I guess we can split the bottle.Ow and... I don't think that the cycle support will last that long and I won't have the money me nor my buddy to buy, more pct and support. Which PH is better Epistane or its clone Epi?
04-21-2013, 09:48 AM
Loled I just found its the same PH both are:
2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyletioallocholan-17b-ol but the one company clames that it has and anti-estrogen properties
04-21-2013, 09:52 AM
04-21-2013, 09:59 AM
04-21-2013, 10:07 AM
So sad...well I can see your fine now! So I shouldn't expect any crazy gains at all (like 20lbs and keep 10-15).I know that every one reacts deferent to compounds but not that much...
04-21-2013, 10:33 AM
I'm going to run lgi epi for 6 weeks, can someone tell me what should be a better route.
Please explain, thanks bros
04-21-2013, 10:34 AM
I'd run it for 6 weeks personally. Im starting another epi cycle on Tuesday and will run for 6 weeks. I also suggest getting something for the lethargy like Stano or Dermacine, every one is different but the lethargy on epi got me good the first go round.
04-21-2013, 11:25 AM
04-21-2013, 11:52 AM
Both cycles I stated are for 6 weeks, I'm asking about the dosages please.
I'm also running stano 800 mg for 6 weeks with it.
04-21-2013, 12:16 PM
04-21-2013, 01:18 PM
my first cycle was havoc at 40/40/50/50/50/50 gained 25lbs a lot was water, and ended up keeping around 11/12
04-21-2013, 01:25 PM
I ran my first epi 36/36/54/54/54, 18 mg pills, I put on 15, lost 4 , cycle support , regular OTC PCT, got bloods done month after and I was fine
04-21-2013, 01:44 PM
I enjoyed epistane very much. Got big gains, vascular, aggressive. I ran it for 7 weeks though. You don't really feel anything at all for about 10-14 days. Also, you will need taurine so stock up on it. It solves the back pumps extremely well. But I would use clomid instead of nolvadex
04-21-2013, 01:54 PM
Why clomid over nolvadex ??
04-21-2013, 02:11 PM
04-21-2013, 03:36 PM
04-21-2013, 04:10 PM
04-21-2013, 04:16 PM
How should I dose the clomid for pct after epi then? Would liquid clomid work just as well ??
04-21-2013, 05:48 PM
04-21-2013, 06:34 PM
I had horrible lethargy starting week 3, I was sleeping 14 hours a day and the only thing I did was lift and eat. Luckily I was off for winter break so I didn't have anything else to do or else it would of seriously interfered. Next cycle I will be running stano to combat this
04-21-2013, 06:58 PM
04-21-2013, 06:59 PM
04-22-2013, 12:18 AM
04-22-2013, 07:01 AM
Do I really need an estrogen control?. The one I had for cycle support increases natural test too... So itsnot what I need I want a real estrogen blocker to avoid the increase of it during cycle...and I cannot find one that only blocks it..
04-22-2013, 07:10 AM
04-22-2013, 08:41 AM
04-22-2013, 09:07 AM
More is not always better
04-22-2013, 09:22 AM
I will be running stano at 800 the whole 6 weeks with my epistane. Stano won't be as toxic as it is not methylated.
04-22-2013, 09:25 AM
04-22-2013, 10:45 AM
You just gotta see what works for you bud. 800 felt fantastic for me and I likely won't ever cycle without stano
04-22-2013, 11:28 AM
04-22-2013, 11:42 AM
Yeah but some people don't always have reliable sources hence the designer steroid approach
04-22-2013, 12:58 PM
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