starting to feel the sides...
- 04-05-2013, 04:35 PM
Any chance youre just getting back pumps. Dull burning ache on the right hand side of your back? That's not your liver.
Edit* unless you meant the front, in which case I believe that's the appendix and gallbladder region. Which I actually got pain from an hdrol cycle, felt like severe bloating. Doctor checked it out and said it could be gallstones, as soon as I stopped it went away, liver values were good. Either way, if it's hurting and not helping, drop it and PCT.
- 04-05-2013, 05:00 PM
Yeah mine stops a few days after stopping cycle.
Are PH's known to have an effect on the appendix? Is it common. I'm not even sure what the appendix actually does LOL...'Oh well' if you have to destroy an organ it might as well be the one you can live without I guess.. LOL...."I need your clothes, your boots and your motorcycle"
04-05-2013, 05:19 PM
I tried sd for 4 days 7 months after i used havoc(which i gained mostly fat and water from, not exactly lean gains). Instant liver area pain... Just got worse and got really lethargic..so i stopped , in 2 days pain was gone, never touched any aas since, big enough naturally to get roid accusations anyway. Why bother screwing up my hormones and wallet for so little.
I have seen great gains from havoc and sd in fairly untrained people, but for those who have trained and gained up to their genetic max naturally, long aas test/gh etc is needed for big gains...even dudes i know who compete, who got really big before theyvturned to the dark side.. expects like 5-10lbs gains a year from long cycles of gear.
20lbs gains is what skinny dudes get... Eat enough first,food is the best "anabolic"
so i really see why people use them, a great shortcut;-)
If i ever decide to use gear in the future, it would be test...you ll feel awsome, and hardly strain the liver...heart kidneys is another matter in the long run
Suggestion, get off it and start pct. Your body does not like this shait... Not everyone tolerates this stuff..
04-05-2013, 05:45 PM
04-05-2013, 05:55 PM
How about taking UDCA and let all this nonsense go. While you could just have preconditioned liver problems and the Epistane has caused the problem to get significantly worse OR it is something else entirely. To be sure, just get some UDCA. There is a reputable site that sells research chems and also offers this in pill form, which I have verified by logging blood results after an SD/Trenazone/H-Drol run, that it is legit UDCA.
Cant source so dont ask. Search.
I'm on week 4 of SD and going strong. Why? I ran UDCA for the past 3 weeks at a measily 250mg/day and I stayed off the alcohol. Granted, I have never abused my liver in the past so it generally takes these orals pretty well. Epi is weak sauce, too. I can't understand why its messin with your abdomen but I have heard of others experiencing same said issus while on 40mg Epi.
Me personally, I have to eat Epi like candy to get results. Usually upward of 50mg/day to get some size. That's also why I don't run it, lol.
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04-06-2013, 06:46 AM
May I suggest using this app to track your bloodwork tests:
myBloodTracker for IPhone and IPad
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