Considering stacking M-Sten/Epistane...

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  1. Four bottles? Aren't you planning to run 20mg? Or are you just stocking up?


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Wilko View Post
    Four bottles? Aren't you planning to run 20mg? Or are you just stocking up?
    Stocking up. Def not running more than one bottle at a time lol
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by JoeySon View Post
    Stocking up. Def not running more than one bottle at a time lol
    No doubt, stuff is pretty toxic. Im using Talos, Aegis, and their Achilles. Not the cheapest supports out there, but I don't like being cheap when it comes to my health. Got my Stano 200 off amazon for $44. Also, for future reference, TUDCA on same site goes 25g for $40. Plus you get 25g milk thistle for free. Hard to beat that price.

  4. Bump

    Having second thoughts on adding the epi as I've never ran epi or msten so stacking them together has me cautious. However I am planning a pretty mild dose of epi at 30mg. Do you guys think it would make any significant difference to add the epi? Thanks

  5. Quote Originally Posted by JoeySon View Post
    Bump

    Having second thoughts on adding the epi as I've never ran epi or msten so stacking them together has me cautious. However I am planning a pretty mild dose of epi at 30mg. Do you guys think it would make any significant difference to add the epi? Thanks
    More size but more lethargy.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by tinytony View Post
    More size but more lethargy.
    Thanks man. I have the stano so hopefully lethargy won't be a big issue. I'm probably a week out from actually starting it but I'm back n forth on adding the epi

  7. Quote Originally Posted by JoeySon View Post
    Bump

    Having second thoughts on adding the epi as I've never ran epi or msten so stacking them together has me cautious. However I am planning a pretty mild dose of epi at 30mg. Do you guys think it would make any significant difference to add the epi? Thanks
    What about bridging the two. I have yet to have any sides from the M-sten.

  8. 20mg msten/30mg epi is a little rough, but harsher cycles have been ran without injurious result. Run some heavy liver protection, but it can certainly be done safely.

  9. What would tentative bridge plan look like?

  10. Ehh not sure how much I'd like to bridge because you end up running orals for like 8 weeks which in itself seems too risky for me

  11. I regress. Maybe best to run them together and use Talos and Aegis. I was just thinking, I've heard that Epi can take a while to kick in and since the M-sten is so low on the sides you could dose the M-sten higher for 2 weeks and then run the Epi for 4wks. This way you'd only be taking one Methyl at a time. Im on day 10 of Msten and Im up 8 lbs. Im sure 3lb is water but that's 5 lean lbs. 14 days wouldn't be a waste.

  12. Yea I will likely just roll with what I had outlined. If the sides become too much ill just drop the Epi but like you said, Msten seems very mild so I'm thinking ill be fine. Biggest concern is prolactin issues which may prompt me to get inhibit-p

  13. Yea, Im running inhibit p. The ladies don't dig milky nipps!

  14. Yea that's probably my biggest fear of this cycle. I might cry if my nipples start to leak. Not to mention my gf being utterly confused and disgusted

  15. Not to highjack the thread but I'm actually going to be doing an mdrol/epi bridge with ams 4ad as a test base here in a couple of weeks.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by JoeySon View Post
    Yea that's probably my biggest fear of this cycle. I might cry if my nipples start to leak. Not to mention my gf being utterly confused and disgusted
    I know that's right. Crying in that situation is probably the manliest thing you could get done too. Gfs, Wives, and Old Ladies tend to lean more toward the disgusted side of that one. They tend to not be very understanding when you do it to yourself. They say awful things like "I told you so".

  17. Quote Originally Posted by jquanda View Post
    Not to highjack the thread but I'm actually going to be doing an mdrol/epi bridge with ams 4ad as a test base here in a couple of weeks.
    Whats your cycle gonna look like?

  18. I actually have a thread going on it though not many have replied/posted on it. It'll look like this:

    Cycle:
    SD: 20/20/20
    Epi: 0/ 0/ 20/30/30/40
    AMS 4-AD 2 every day but might up as needed.
    Supports:
    Cycle Assist 8 caps a day
    Fish oil
    Multi
    Taurine as needed

    PCT
    Nolva: 20/20/10/10
    Erase: 0/ 0/ 2- till empty bottle
    Test Powder: 2 scoops/day
    creatine 5g/day
    Versa-1: not really sure if i wanna run this during pct or just wait till after. suggestions welcome.

    Using the AMS 4-ad as a "test base" for this cycle to combat lethargy seeing as that was the worst side effect i experienced from SD.

  19. Alpha one into superdrol 6 weeks
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