- 03-19-2013, 02:28 AM
So my first and only cycle was Hdrol about 2.5 years ago with Nolva PCT. I was happy with it, but lost all my gains over about 6 months as I didn't continue to hit it hard. This time will be much better I hope as I love the gym now so this cycle will not just be just a phase. Here's my tentative plan, please critique. However, I do have a few products I got hooked up on from somewhere else, so please don't rip me apart for that. I also want to take it conservative and be as safe as possible.
1-6 helladrol 75/75/75/75/75
1-6 Cycle Support
1-6 Creatine (is this not recommended as it might make it harsher on kidney?)
4-10 forma stanzol (5 pumps am/pm)
7-10 Natty Test Booster(Zinc/DAA/Fenugreek/LJ100)
7-10 Torem 90/60/60/30 (not positive if I need a SERM, but thought it might be good to be safe. Also, should I run it even at a lower dose? 60/30/30/15?)
I also will be taking the standard multi vitamin, glutamine, BCAA's, Whey Protein. I was thinking of the transdermal test, as I can't even see myself pin, but since I already have some of these products, I figured I might as well run this hdrol and then let some more feedback come in with the trans products and run it later in the year possibly. Thanks in advance guys.
- 03-19-2013, 02:39 AM
Use the serm. Run the cycle and don't take another vacation from the gym or you will just piss more money down the drain.
- 03-19-2013, 09:05 AM
Don't run creatine on-cycle. Start it when you start PCT.
If you HAVE transdermal test, run it. If you don't already have it, get some stano or 5-alpha to fight lethargy, and you should be good to go.
Yes, run SERM at your original doses.
03-19-2013, 09:54 PM
Good points, I'll probably hold creatine until pct.
Also, I might switch from Torem to Clomid for the mere fact I can't find a place that carries Torem.
Seems like Nolva and Clomid are all that I can find.
03-20-2013, 04:47 PM
03-20-2013, 05:56 PM
03-21-2013, 07:26 PM
I'm not sure I can find torment anywhere, so I might go with Clomid.
However, with Hdrol being not so harsh, should I run clomid very low at maybe 12.5/day since I'm taking forma also?
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