HDROL SDROL LIVER FAILURE

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  1. Livingdeadguy troll,you did not have liver failure!

    Pho`sure!

    Almost everyone`s enzymes are elevated after a course of methyls!


    btw smoking pot all the time? You certainly don`t qualify to give advice to healthy young athletes.


    Although I personally am against methyls.


  2. Adderall is hell on your liver as well. You may want to delete this thread because your getting raped
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Livingdeadguy
    Hey guys,

    I am hoping this thread will serve as a warning to young bodybuilders not to use pro-hormones. Also, I am hoping to hear from some experienced pro-hormone users about their quality of life after having done many cycles of hormones such as hdrol and sdrol.

    I personally have tried a slew of different prohormones. PPLEX, ALPHA-ONE, SDROL, HDROL, D-ZINE, EPISTANE and a few unmethylated prohormones such as androbulk, furuza-a and m-lmg. I kept my cycles short, used support supps, and never did two cycles in a short period of time. I always took a couple months off at least between cycles. Also, I tried to use the methylated prohormones in low doses for short periods of time. I experienced pretty good results with each cycle. However, I started to notice a decline in my health, and pains in my liver area during some of the harsher cycles. I never drank alcohol, but I did smoke a lot of marijuana all the time and abused pre-workout powder and adderall at times. I also used sarms-s4 a few times at doses between 50-150 mg a day.

    So anyways, at some point last year I decided that I was never going to use a prohormone ever again because I was scared they were killing me. Quite some time passed and I was still getting terrible cramps and pains in what a I perceived to be my liver area. I went to my Dr. and he told me these were normal and just stemmed from the muscle. He suggested I drink salt water, or gatorade while I worked out and that seemed to alleviate the pain. I felt so relieved that there was a cure for my liver pain and decided it was definitely nothing too serious. That's when I decided to run a hdrol cycle at 100 mg stacked with 100 mg sarms a day for 5 weeks. The cramps and pains were horrible during workouts but I just kept drinking salt water and it seemed to minimize the pains. By the end of the cycle the pains and cramps were so severe I could no longer workout. I came to the horrifying realization that my liver was failing. I went in to get bloodwork and sure enough I had elevated liver enzymes, and a few other abnormalities that would indicate liver failure.

    I am still very young and obviously never even fathomed having any health problems and already I am dealing with a failing liver. I am so concerned now that it consumes me, and it is very rare for me to go a few minutes not thinking about or researching about liver failure. I now take zero supplements, eat as healthy as I possibly can, have changed my workout routine to promote health, and do everything I can think of to try to reverse the damage. My liver enzymes have come down, and the doctors do not take me seriously, I saw a liver specialist and she insisted that I was going to be fine. But I still worry all day every day that I may be close to death. Seeing how little the doctors can do to diagnose and treat liver damage/failure was truly horrifying for me, as I had always trusted that if anything went awyr they would be able to help me. I cannot stress how far from the truth this is. You will be extremely lucky to receive any medical treatment, much less helpful medical treatment when it comes to liver failure.

    I want my experience to serve as a warning to anyone considering using these deadly chemicals. Granted, most people are more responsible with their cycles, I still think even one cycle can do permanent damage to the liver and take years off of your life. I wallow in regret and pray to God every day that I do not die of liver failure.
    I attribute this to poor genetics

  4. So much win in this thread

  5. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post

    I attribute this to poor genetics

    I attribute this to natural selection.
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  6. OP, sorry to tell you but you are going to be dead by the end of the year. I've done years of research and it all points to you being in the ground really soon.

    Nice research you did. Concerned about your liver and didn't even get a blood test done, just drank salt water. Salt ****ing water. Yea, okay, totally believe you. Still, sorry to hear of your impending death.

  7. Hey OP you think I can get by with tribulus for pct with my upcoming sdrol/pplex/dbol/anadrol/dzine/msten/halotestin 16-week stack soon? Or you think I should add milk thistle too? I really wanna be safe with this one.

    I'm sorry. I just really wanted to troll too after I opened your thread.
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  9. Title of the thread should be BRAIN FAILURE

  10. This has to be a joke. "I kept all of my gains, so my PCT must not have been too bad." What PCT? You said no serm was used, and you sometimes never did a PCT of any kind. Weed, adderal, and attention-seeking are not a good PCT.

  11. wait are your balls supposed to come back after a cycle.....its been 6 months after my cycle and i still have raisins. should i be concerned?

  12. This guy sounds like he forgot to take his xanex and is a paranoid hippie. m o t h e r f u c k e r

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Vitus View Post
    Youre the ****ing epitome of an incredibly naive stupid **** who ruins **** for the rest of us... goddamn stupid ****ing hippie. stick to smoking weed.. "after all, they sell them legally" so why dont you go drink some mouthwash and eat a car battery?! Those are legal duuuuude. And I dont even care but you know what? 205 @ 10% BF, show us the pics hippie..
    I tried to upload pics but I didn't have enough posts to do so. Won't let me post links in here either but if you just put the .com into this link manually you can see a video of me benching 315 x 8 it was uploaded almost 2 years ago. I bench much more now but this is the only proof I can provide. I changed the title on youtube to include livingdeadguy so you know its me.

    youtube/watch?v=6V5YSqduq8U Just put .com after youtube and the link will take you there.


    I'm starting to think that there is nothing wrong with me. I feel healthier than ever, and honestly there probably wasn't ever really anything wrong. My liver enzymes were only slightly elevated (76 alt/55 ast) and that was just a day after a harsh cycle. The levels came back down to normal in just about a week or so. The Dr. said the elevated alt/ast was not abnormal because these enzymes can be released by muscle as well. I just got scared ****less when I started to do more research about these things, and found out how stupid it was to run all those cycles in just a 3 year period. Oh well, lesson learned.

  14. Also to all you talking **** saying I did no pct let me clarify that I always had toremifene or raloxifene as well as letro on hand and would occassionally take them. For a couple cycles I did a well thought out pct and stuck to it, but for several of the mild cycles i did i only did like two weeks of pct.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by StayinHeavy View Post
    You're just the worlds savior from steroids aren't you? Pat yourself on the back, and stop maybe idiotic posts. Everything you say is so contradicting it is [email protected] ridiculous and I'm not gonna feed the troll any longer. You act like youre on your death bed, looking for a liver transplant, while on dialysis. YOU ran 9 cycles in three years, YOU supposedly did your research, YOU didn't believe in a SERM, YOU bought these supps OTC and with all the research didn't find it wasn't smart to run cycles for 3 years straight?? (Cycle+PCT+time off all count towards one cycle) and YOU are an idiotic POS who should just leave the forum and take your BS somewhere else. You're no longer addicted to steroids, go back to your other great life choice. Poppin addies and smoking tons of weed.
    There are plenty of people who run 2-3 cycles a year that's not uncommon just saying. What you think guys wait 6 months between cycles?? Bahahahahaha now that's funny

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Livingdeadguy View Post

    I tried to upload pics but I didn't have enough posts to do so. Won't let me post links in here either but if you just put the .com into this link manually you can see a video of me benching 315 x 8 it was uploaded almost 2 years ago. I bench much more now but this is the only proof I can provide. I changed the title on youtube to include livingdeadguy so you know its me.

    youtube/watch?v=6V5YSqduq8U Just put .com after youtube and the link will take you there.

    I'm starting to think that there is nothing wrong with me. I feel healthier than ever, and honestly there probably wasn't ever really anything wrong. My liver enzymes were only slightly elevated (76 alt/55 ast) and that was just a day after a harsh cycle. The levels came back down to normal in just about a week or so. The Dr. said the elevated alt/ast was not abnormal because these enzymes can be released by muscle as well. I just got scared ****less when I started to do more research about these things, and found out how stupid it was to run all those cycles in just a 3 year period. Oh well, lesson learned.
    Don't ever diagnose yourself online it will just make your anxiety worse and you rarely find a correct diagnosis. Btw..if your liver was failing you would have yellow eyes, skin, etc. Its called jaundice.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by JD261985 View Post

    There are plenty of people who run 2-3 cycles a year that's not uncommon just saying. What you think guys wait 6 months between cycles?? Bahahahahaha now that's funny
    Agreed. People do run 2-3 cycles a year. Exp people who know what they are doing. Not underage kids. OP has done nothing but contradict himself and pretty sure he isn't being serious and just trolling around. Was a little heated in that post haha just due to his stupidity and constant changing of his story. I still say 9 cycles is a tad much for oral only cycles but if you get your Blood work done and good to go, then it comes down to the user and their own personal choices.

  18. Lol the drs told you that your not haveing liver failure but you dont beleive them.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Livingdeadguy View Post
    Also to all you talking **** saying I did no pct let me clarify that I always had toremifene or raloxifene as well as letro on hand and would occassionally take them. For a couple cycles I did a well thought out pct and stuck to it, but for several of the mild cycles i did i only did like two weeks of pct.
    Key word is occasionally.
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  20. "I'm starting to think that there is nothing wrong with me."

    HAHAHAHAHAHA NO FUQING ****T? WHAT HAPPENED TO BEING THE PATRON SAINT OF ANTI STEROIDS WHO WAS GNA "SAVE US"? IDIOT....
    Smokes lots of weed, pops adderall, becomes paranoid as fuq... I think theres a connection there..... *******.. I just hope you didnt write your Congressman a fuqing letter lmao..

  21. Why don't you listen to your liver specialist. Everyone is right your enzymes will be higher after a meth cycle. It's your choice to not do pro hormones. Did you not run all the support supps and drink a gallon of water a day? Did you drink alcohol on cycle or during your break?
    There's a lot more to it I would think

  22. Very old thread. But sounds more like he had gallbladder issues than liver issues.
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