One of my faves
You guys are old.
Nice discussion here.
In fact,I can get Testosteron Depo Galenika(test-e)so cheap,in the pharmacy,without a script.
It`s being made right here,a 250 mg vial costs 2$.
Steroids aren`t even really illegal here.
You guys are gonna laugh now that I was even considering 4-dhea.
I only thought,if I order a 4-dhea supplement,that I wouldn`t be a "junkie",buying meds from a pharmacy and injecting! LOL
But you`re right,this would probably be a lot safer than using sketchy prohormones.
The only thing that really worries me about gear is the possibility of getting addicted and not wanting to come off.
Well just a quick thought off the top off my head it would appear logical to me to conclude that...
a pro hormone that requires conversion before becoming an active steroid should only have the 'possiblity' of being "MORE" harmful and carry possibilities of MORE side effects (just the POSSIBILITY though and not always necessarily being the case), as a prohormone that requires conversion will end up with the same substance in you're body in the end as if you were to just take the active so therefore it couldn't possibly be any less harmful and must come with at least the same damage and risk as the straight hormone but with the possibility of more harm and/or risks because you also have a different substance in you're body before it has been converted into the active which would have the possibility of having its own side effects and/or harmful effects.
So in other words it seems to me that:
With a pro hormone that requires conversion you have everything that you would have with an active substance but also having even more (in the form of an extra chemicals prior to conversion and the extra conversion processes themselves etc.) therefore resulting in it only being possible to have MORE harm and/or sides due to the possible harm from the initial substance prior to conversion (if there is any harm at all) or from the conversion process itself?
Am i right here and does what i think to be a logical conclusion make sense to everyone else?
Or am i incorrect in my reasoning in some way?
Do you easily get addicted? Can't stay away from booze, cigarettes, or tranny diddling?
Test is the best. You can run cycles of test perpetually with no issues if you treat it with respect.
Prohormones were all discovered back in the 1950s and shelved because they are inferior or overly toxic or both.
The only reason we even know about them now is through a legal loophole in the US.
Stick to the old school hormones!
Testosterone is a pro hormone.
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The only value I find in prohormones is that they require you to use them in moderation, otherwise the side effects and heatlh consequences can be very harsh - to an extent that I would rather show more respect for the compound and cycle it once or twice a year than to be addicted and greedy about it and find myself layed up in a hospital bed with part of my liver cut out.
With test I just want MOAR MOAR MOAR. While my health is probably better off on test versus orals, the test is more likely to cause an addiction for myself. I have noticed this about using real gear - it's got a stronghold on the mind moreso than a little 4 week run of PH's do. You just don't want to stop and even when you do you are already planning out your next 16-20 week run.