Joints hurting on cycle....now onto PCT (Will this make it worse?

  1. Joints hurting on cycle....now onto PCT (Will this make it worse?


    I just got done running a cycle of H-drol (100mg) & 11-oxo/11-lean(750mg). Towards the end and still today (my 1st day of PCT) my should was hurting more than it normally does (something is up with my shoulder to begin with). It has gotten increasingly worse - and I have NOT worked out like I should have so it unfortunately isn't due to overtraining or injury from lifting heavy....

    I started thinking and realized the warnings I have seen about running Lean Xtreme (a cortisol inhibitor) 3x a day - that it may make your joints ache. Then realized that 11-lean has a similar effect in regards to cortisol.... could this be the reason why my shoulder is acting up more??

    and more importantly..... if so, is it only going to get worse because I am taking Erase (in place of Lean Xtreme) which will lower cortisol.?

    Any ideas or suggestions? Thanks!


  2. Animal Flex 2ed split evenly. Worked well for me.

  3. is that 2 packs a day ?? or half the pack at 2 different times a day? Sorry
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  4. 2 packs a day. One waking, one at dinner. That's how I took it and it paid dividends.

  5. I'll give that a shot. I was taking it once a day. I'll see about twice. THANKS!

  6. Lower the Erase dose, your e2 might be low, causing joint pain.

  7. Try some fish oil that helped me when my joints hurt

  8. I would look into some glucosamine, fish oil, and flax oil to help with joints. that being said its probably from the duration of your cycle with the 11-oxo. An AI on pct will only drop e2 lower and cause further joint pain which is why i recomend the other supps, because i always recomend an AI on pct as well so I wouldnt cut that out if i was you. just my .02 cents though. hope all goes well!

  9. Quote Originally Posted by johnny666x View Post
    I just got done running a cycle of H-drol (100mg) & 11-oxo/11-lean(750mg). Towards the end and still today (my 1st day of PCT) my should was hurting more than it normally does (something is up with my shoulder to begin with). It has gotten increasingly worse - and I have NOT worked out like I should have so it unfortunately isn't due to overtraining or injury from lifting heavy....

    I started thinking and realized the warnings I have seen about running Lean Xtreme (a cortisol inhibitor) 3x a day - that it may make your joints ache. Then realized that 11-lean has a similar effect in regards to cortisol.... could this be the reason why my shoulder is acting up more??

    and more importantly..... if so, is it only going to get worse because I am taking Erase (in place of Lean Xtreme) which will lower cortisol.?

    Any ideas or suggestions? Thanks!
    Lower any doses of estrogen suppressing products. Add cissus, 3-4g daily, make sure you're getting 2g combined EPA/DHA daily (fish oil).

  10. CL oximega's, CL orange triad, and formutech's flexible does the job for me. erase pro killed my joints pretty badly during post cycle
  

  
 

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