- 12-16-2004, 11:13 PM
How do you know if your shutdown? I hear people say their nuts shrink... but i have never seen my nuts get smaller...
I read a post where Dr D was talking about a cycle he did (i dont remember of what) but he said he didnt do pct because
it was not necessary??? I assume he did blood tests?
- 12-16-2004, 11:28 PM
its hard to tell yourself whether you are shutdown ... some don't really experience testicular atrophy too any great degree .. that doesn't mean they aren't shutdown
a blood test is really the only way to know for sure ... you're always better off safe than sorry .. run a full pct with nolva
12-16-2004, 11:42 PM
You get shutdown even on relatively mild compounds. And you can't wait or rely on nut shrinkage, mood etc as a gauge. How are we supposed to measure testicular volume accurately anyway.
PCT or in the case of Dr.D enough time off with some OTC herbs - which counts as PCT of sorts is always necessary.
Running another cycle when you're not fully 100% will definitely make recovery and gains worse.
12-17-2004, 08:31 AM
My boys are super sensitive. I started off my current cycle which is 1T and 4ad and I threw some m1t in there at the beginning. My fellas were at about 75% within one week
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