Pro hormones - do they work?
- 02-28-2013, 03:14 AM
- 02-28-2013, 03:54 AM
There are hundreds of threads about prohormones, and pages on pages of research showing what they do and how they work.
- 02-28-2013, 04:40 AM
They are all lies. Lies I tell you!!!
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02-28-2013, 04:50 AM
02-28-2013, 08:16 AM
They do indeed work just make sure your ancillaries and PCT are in check before you start. And always use a SERM. I think most people recommend halo or superdrol, personally about to try trenabol and log it if you wanna follow ill be posting it as soon as it comes in.
02-28-2013, 08:18 AM
No, they are all ****. Stick to test boosters that the local gym supp store sells you, that **** is LEGIT.
02-28-2013, 08:35 AM
02-28-2013, 01:44 PM
Pro-hormones are steroids. Hell a lot of them aren't even pro they are Designer Oral Steroids already active no conversion required.
02-28-2013, 01:45 PM
Yes PH's work, many people deter away from PH's because PH's have the same side effects with 1/2 the results some say....
02-28-2013, 02:00 PM
02-28-2013, 02:39 PM
02-28-2013, 02:48 PM
Yeah especially sticking to time on= time off pro hormones really make you feel like that next cycles right around the corner way more than running a 16 week test cycle and taking the same time off. Feels like foreverrrrOriginally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM
02-28-2013, 03:43 PM
02-28-2013, 03:46 PM
Olympus labs super pct, don't cycle without it. It's the best IMO. Get some an you'll be glad you did Olympus labs rep
02-28-2013, 04:06 PM
What are the latest ph's that people are using? Since I cant get beastdrol anymore im looking into something else.
02-28-2013, 04:10 PM
02-28-2013, 04:11 PM
Listen up dude! Prohormones are drugs that they dident want to use.. They turned out with side-effects or even found better drugs for the action, now some retards pulled the drugs up from the trash-can reinvented a supplement name and changed it to DecaDICOBOL now its legal to sell..
DecaDICOBOL might have been a drug to crack up open your *******, but they are now selling it because of the 10% strength increase it had. So for example EPISTANE was an anti "CANCER" <--------------- CANCER drug................. get the hell out of here, alot of noobs out there have been taking this and dident know **** about what was going through their blood.
Side effects are there, and the generel benefit is 0.5% of steroids. Do the real thing if you wonna go safe with alot of studies behind it.
02-28-2013, 04:47 PM
02-28-2013, 04:54 PM
02-28-2013, 05:23 PM
02-28-2013, 05:45 PM
02-28-2013, 05:49 PM
I feel that Pinning Test > Oral PH use so long as both preload, cycle support, and full pct are planned out and PURCHASED. Injectables are "easier" on your system and have "less" negative sides. I think the "less" sides is overstated because you will still get acne, bpb, ED/shutdown, etc... on an injectable steroid if the proper precautions aren't taken.
However, since pinning costs more and is harder to get, I usually read many more threads that have less than desired pct/support. This ruins gains (especially staying gains), can cause worse sides, and potential long term health risks for a user. IMHO, the PH using group, for the most part, acknowledges the compounds are "worse" for them, but since it is more affordable they will put much more money into support/recovery supps. The results are still good so long as you are reasonable, oral ph cycles are shorter and the compounds are different, thus, putting on 20lbs of staying lean weight for an advanced lifter in any 6-8 week PH cycle is rare.
Keeping your expectations reasonable will usually yield to more effective and healthier results. If you recognize that gaining a lean staying 6lbs-7lbs from an oral cycle is a great success then you will by nature be eating healthier, mixing up your workouts more efficiently, maintaining a decent cardio/HITT schedule, since you won't be so fucosed on "I HAVE TO GAIN 20 POUNDS FOR THIS TO BE A SUCCESSFUL CYCLE!". Expecting 20lbs of permanent lean mass is a bit of stretch, you may gain 20lbs from your whole cycle, but a solid chuink of that will be fat/water and will eventually drop down over time, by focusing on reaching a number as high as 20lbs of staying weight, you will probably eat dirtier, you may skip cardio because you will feel its counterproductive to your goals, and you will get more bummed out/dicouraged when that weight eventually sheds down due to water weight, fat reduction, and the general loss of some cycle gains.
Keep in mind that I am still researching up for what will be my first PH cycle, Mechabol. I have a thread on it in the forum detailing all the supps I have at my disposal, I was fortunate enough to have a friend who wanted a clean slate and moved out west so he sold me all of his stuff at a huge bulk discounted rate. Not everyone is as fortunate so if you take a look do not think you need ALL of those supps/support to go on cycle. In fact it is probably overkill in my instance, but research every way you can combat negative changes to your T,E,Cort, and Prolactin levels while on and during pct.
Also, some people can bear the thought of sticking a needle in their butt and possibly hitting a nerve, blood vessel, or artery and risking infection/serious injury. Thus they just opt for oral alternatives no matter the differential of cost/effectiveness.
I don't mean to generalize with this post, just stating from what I have seen in various forums and posts.
02-28-2013, 06:03 PM
02-28-2013, 06:26 PM
02-28-2013, 06:38 PM
02-28-2013, 07:22 PM
Now a compound like Halodrol and clones it is a precursor to Turinabol, your body metabolizes it into Turinabol.
As mentioned earlier though there is a company making a compound that is a precursor to Superdrol(methasterone) which will circumvent the ban placed on it back in august. Though being brand new there has yet to be real world results of if it is just as effective as Superdrol or not, or if it even act's similar to Superdrol. Should be hitting the market in the next week or two.
Like Mebolazine aka Dymethazine or DMZ is essentially two superdrol molecules bonded together with a Azine which is 2 nitrogen atoms single bonded to each other and double bonded to the 3rd carbon of their superdrol molecule, after you ingest it it is cleaved into two pieces at the Azine group. In theory you would think DMZ would have almost identical results to Superdrol but it does not.
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