Complications from GEAR...What type of Doctor do we go and see?
- 03-02-2013, 12:53 PM
- 03-02-2013, 01:03 PM
03-02-2013, 01:08 PM
03-02-2013, 01:24 PM
Was I "just happy I got a script"? The answer is "no". Feeling like your body isn't adequate isn't all that fun. Conversely, I am hopeful that this will aid in making my overall day better.
Not all docs are as crappy as yours sounds. I had all-inclusive panels run prior to even discussing treatment options, and my doc was very insightful. I think you just got unlucky.
03-02-2013, 01:25 PM
All these PHs and steroids some of you do it's all fine and dandy until shieet goes wrong then run over to doctors like little girls to get fixed up because you cant deal with reality of being shut down and the side effects which could have easily been avoided.
Really? Do the fukking research and understand the consequences before you plunge into anabolics thinking it's candy. If you shut down the doctor will give you testosterone replacement therapy and what some of you want is a shoulder to cry on and someone to hold you hand through the process . Pls let's grow up people
People get ****ked up because they choose to take anabolics that's why and have no knowledge to figure their way out of it, period!
And this is a lesson to be learned for anybody who wants to do steroids or PHs, if you dont have a plan B then dont bother geting involved with this shieet. Doctors will not fix you up but patch you up at best and send your arse out the door.
For the original poster, hope you have $5k to get surgery because that's the only way to fix your lump. And btw the reason you felt crappy is that the letro was working and basically killed your estrogen, hence no sex drive. Im sure the endo will set you straight
03-02-2013, 01:32 PM
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03-02-2013, 09:00 PM
03-02-2013, 10:34 PM
03-02-2013, 10:41 PM
03-02-2013, 11:09 PM
I'm not disagreeing with you about most doc's not knowing crap, but your comments were pretty strong. Strong comments lead people to "believe" that that must be fact or the only way or "oh since he was so firm in his comments it must be true," when In actuality good doctors with understand about anabolic steroids do exist. They are brutally hard to find, but a good doc with a good understanding of the body and anabolic's do exist and they should be sought out first when anyone has these kinds of issues. Way before a "savvy" guy who has used lots of gear.
The issue is guys don't get second opinions or do their own research for whatever reason. Ok I'll get off my soap box.
03-02-2013, 11:12 PM
I have seen true roid rage a few times in the past. Not as much with exp guys on gear of proper age. I believe age and development both physically and mentally plays a role. Plus if you're a semi-psychotic person before taking gear, it may effect you worse than others. The development referring to people under stay 20 on gear. I remember kids in high school that were already 4-5 cycles deep before they were 18. One kid knocked out a teacher for a joke he made in class. Another punched through his driver side window when he forgot his PWO at home. Kid slammed a plate into his head, requiring 8 stitches because he didn't get the reps he wanted. These aren't exactly extreme cases, but I've really only seen it from founder, under developed people on gear, not exp users that know what they are doing to their bodies. I myself can get so pissed over the smallest things and find myself with my AR in the back yard blowin through rounds a lot when on cycle haha but ne'er anything crazy or losing self control. Better chance of me beating the **** outta some one when I'm drunk than on cycle.
03-02-2013, 11:45 PM
03-03-2013, 01:26 AM
03-05-2013, 11:27 AM
Woah. A lot going on in here since my last post. My appointment is later today so I'll provide details afterward. The doctor is a board certified internal medicine and endocrinologist. He specializes in treating diabetes, thyroid disorders, osteoporosis, and in providing hormone replacement therapy to transgender patients. He probably has to know some stuff about steroids for that kind of stuff right? He also specializes in geriatric endocrinology (elderly people) and you constantly have to balance their hormones. I'm confident this doctor knows his stuff and can help me.
At this point I'm past the whole gyno lump thing. This is about getting my test and estrogen back to within normal range and hopefully the range that has me operating/functioning properly. Since I messed around with my estrogen I'm sure he will test both hormone panels and who knows what else.
I completely understand the worries and opinions in the thread as we've all heard or experienced horror stories. However, if I feel that he's not doing his job or is lacking in knowledge, I won't see him again or I'll ask that he recommends me to someone who has more experience in that department. I'd rather go to a professional doctor than seek advice from the average joe who has done his fair share of roids. Everyone's body is different and what side-effect one person experienced may not be the same for another so I'd rather hear it from someone who dedicated their life and mind to knowing about hormones and the human body.
03-05-2013, 03:34 PM
Good deal with the appointment bud. Hopefully it all pans out and this doc is good at what they do. The only doc I fear is the dentist because I don't know enough about the internal workings of my mouth.
03-05-2013, 03:40 PM
03-21-2013, 06:38 PM
Sorry it's been awhile, I've been crazy busy and completely forgot to update everyone. Well, I met with doctor. He seemed know his **** and was pretty knowledgeable in regards to steroids and serms. He had me get blood tested for various things and I got the results back the 19th. He said everything was in the "normal" range. Of course...what a surprise. I'm gonna list what my levels were...
Thyroid Stim. Hormone Chart: 1.85 (0.55-4.78 mIU/mL)
Thyroxine, T4 Free Chart: 1.3 (0.86-1.76 ng/dL)
Testosterone, Total Chart: 469 (262-1593 ng/dL) <----He said the 1593 was a typo and should be closer to 1000.
Testosterone Free Chart:
Sex Hormone Binding Globulin: 21.90 (13.00-71.00 nmol/L)
Testosterone, Free Percent: 2.7 (1.7-4.1%)
Testosterone Free: 120 (50-350 pg/mL)
Testosterone, Total: 445 (262-1593 ng/dL) <----He said the 1593 was a typo and should be closer to 1000.
Estrogens, FRACT, LC/MS/MS Chart:
Estradiol LC/MS/MS: 28 (< OR = 29 pg/mL)
Estriol LC/MS/MS SERUM: Interfering Substance Present. Unable to Quantitate. (ADULTS: < OR = 0.18)
Esterone LC/MS/MS: 12 (< OR = 68 pg/mL)
COMPREHENSIVE METABOLIC PANEL
Anion Gap: 18 (7-16 mmoL/L) H
A/G Ratio: 1.3 ()
Albumin: 4.6 (3.5-5.0 g/dL)
Bilit, TOT: 0.4 (0.2-1.3 mg/dL)
Bun: 26 (9-20 mg/dL) H
CA: 9.5 (8.4-10.3 mg/dL)
CL: 97 (98-107 mmol/L) L
CO2: 26 (22-30 MMOL/L)
CREA: 0.98 (0.66-1.25 mg/dL)
GLUC, RND: 84 (74-106 mg/dL)
K: 4.5 (3.5-5.1 mmol/L)
NA: 141 (137-145 mmol/L)
ALK PHOS: 78 (38-126 U/L)
AST: 39 (15-46 U/L)
TP: 8.1 (6.3-8.2 g/dL)
ALT: 49 (13-69 U/L)
EST GFR: 92 ()
Everything was good.
CBC W DIFF Chart:
DTYPE: AUTOMATED DIFFERENTIAL ()
NEUTRO: 71.2 (40.0-74.0%)
HCT: 45.9 (41.0-53.0%)
HGB: 14.8 (13.5-17.5 g/dL)
MCH: 28.8 (27.0-34.0 pg)
MCHC: 32.2 (29.0-37.0 g/dL)
MCV: 89.3 (80.0-100.0 fL)
MPV: 9.1 (6.5-11.3 fL)
PLT CNT: 219 (150-450 K/uL)
WBC: 5.6 (4.5-10.8 K/uL)
RBC COUNT: 5.14 (4.5-5.90 M/uL)
RDW: 13.2 (11.4-16.4%)
LYMPH: 18.0 (18.0-44.0%)
MONO: 7.4 (4.7-12.0%)
EOSIN: 3.0 (0.7-8.0%)
BASO: 0.4 (0.1-1.4%)
NEUTRO ABS: 4.0 (1.8-8.0 K/uL)
LYMPH ABS: 1.0 (0.8-4.8 K/uL)
MONO ABS: 0.4 (0.2-1.3 K/uL)
EOSIN ABS: 0.2 (0.0-0.9 K/uL)
BASO ABS: 0.0 (0.0-0.2 K/uL)
PROLACTIN: 6.0 (ng/mL)
DHEA-SO4: 475.0 (80-560.0 ug/dL)
Luteinizing Hormone: 5.05 (mIU/mL)
Follicle Stim. Hormone: 1.9 (1.0-18.0 mIU/mL)
He said for now let's not do anything and wait things out a bit since my levels are "normal". I just turned 27 and the test levels just seem low to me. My libido is completely shot and I can't get full erections. I'm probably just gonna call him in a week or so if things don't start picking up in that department. This **** sucks and I don't want to start doing the balancing act by taking stuff and then having other **** get ****ed up. I also understand that your test drops during the day (the blood was taken around 6:30PM) but still. I shouldn't feel off every day. I don't know. I know you guys aren't doctors but what do you think in regards to my blood work? Anything?
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