grapefruit and orals
- 02-22-2013, 07:51 PM
- 02-22-2013, 07:54 PM
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- 02-22-2013, 08:01 PM
02-22-2013, 08:28 PM
02-22-2013, 10:17 PM
02-22-2013, 10:38 PM
And what about with the prohormone halodrol?
02-22-2013, 10:47 PM
Why not? PP and other companies use(d) this as their "bio available/carrier" matrix...
02-22-2013, 10:56 PM
02-23-2013, 04:42 AM
02-23-2013, 07:25 AM
How so?Originally Posted by Smeagel
02-23-2013, 08:54 AM
Slightly on-topic/off-topic but I had heard from credible sources that grape juice helps creatine absorb better/faster
02-23-2013, 10:06 AM
Yes, dihydroxybergamotin or dhb has an effect on absorption and metabolism of a lot of compounds.
Its found in grapefruit
02-23-2013, 04:36 PM
02-23-2013, 04:37 PM
Try Anabolic Xtreme Trisorbagen and you will love it.. I am using it with Epi currently and the effect of the cycle is much more pronounced. And I have tried with and without, as Epi is a DS that seems to really like my androgen receptors.. I go back to it every time
02-23-2013, 08:19 PM
That product is a waste of money.Originally Posted by tinytony
02-23-2013, 08:36 PM
It's not a waste it if it works and if you have the money to spend.. Love the super opinionated people on this forum.. Been here barely all I see are guys pretending to be know-it-alls and harassing people who ask questions and bring in an idea they don't agree with..
02-23-2013, 08:38 PM
02-23-2013, 08:45 PM
Ok no problem, you're entitled to that
02-23-2013, 09:57 PM
If sum1 has had an experence with somthing that works for them then no reason to be petty and put them down.
Seems to me that negative criticism far outweighs constructive feedback around here. Learn Teach Lead? Not so much
02-23-2013, 10:52 PM
02-23-2013, 11:37 PM
Used dhb, 300mg per cap, 2 caps per day, washed down with pure grapefruit juice works, and is cheap.
I rarely buy supplements with my own money, but when I do, I expect them to live up to claims, and be worth the cost.
I purchased trisobargen with my own money, and found it to be a waste of money, and is garbage in my opinion.
Take it or leave it.
02-23-2013, 11:42 PM
I think my negative criticism is constructive feedback.Originally Posted by Smeagel
I learn, I teach, I lead.
If admins don't like something I or anyone does, they are quick to tell it. But if you don't like the board, feel free to gtfo.
02-23-2013, 11:43 PM
I don't pretend to know anything I don't. If I don't know, I'll say so.Originally Posted by tinytony
I havent harassed anyone in a long time, I thought I've been pretty docile these last few months.
I listen to the data, then form an opinion.
02-24-2013, 01:08 AM
No hard feelings.
I just felt like havin a bit of a b*tch.
Negative criticism is not constructive feedback tho, just want to make that clear.
02-24-2013, 01:09 AM
02-24-2013, 01:16 AM
02-24-2013, 01:17 AM
02-24-2013, 01:20 AM
02-24-2013, 09:20 AM
So what about grapefruit juice does it work?
02-24-2013, 10:40 AM
02-24-2013, 11:55 AM
A product that does the same thing as another much cheaper product, is a waste of money to me. If it isn't for you and your fine with spending more for the same end, that's your decision, I don't really care.Originally Posted by tinytony
It isn't right or wrong, people come here for info.
If my opinion was worthless, I wouldn't get paid for it, but quite a few companies do, and that's worth something for some people looking for help, for others, it isn't. No worries.
This is not bb.com, if you like that site, post there. Otherwise, enjoy yourself, and welcome to anabolic minds.
02-24-2013, 12:03 PM
I've found the best, most affordable way is to buy DHB in capsules, and take about 600mg ed with grapefruit juice.
But there is quite a bit of data on the subject.
The overall consensus with medication is it increases the half life of a compound, and in doing so, increases side effects, with positive effects being insignificant .
But this is from studying It's effects on medications, not androgens
02-24-2013, 01:20 PM
02-24-2013, 01:28 PM
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02-24-2013, 01:48 PM
Yup. I've seen a list of medications that gf juice effects, but as far as androgens go, trial n error.Originally Posted by heebs10
02-24-2013, 02:26 PM
So what prohormones does it work with? Ex. epistane, halodrol, ultradrol, superdrol, m1t
02-24-2013, 05:15 PM
02-24-2013, 05:34 PM
There is little to know studies on the p450 cyto and its effect on legal DS. However there is data that spells out its role in metabolizing both estrogen and testosterone. It is bc of this that is is generally assumed that it metabolizes most (steroidal) hormones. Another vital piece is that this snip was extracted primarily in the liver, giving some supporting evidence that it metabolizes methylated synthetic hormones as well. There are many reputable scientists that have opposed this by saying that it specifically metabolizes ORGANIC substances only. Till i see hard data, its trial and error. Flame away if ur not bored to death lol.
02-24-2013, 05:38 PM
For example, Test and estro are organic. DS are typically not
02-25-2013, 11:39 PM
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