CLOMID CYCLE: Come one come all
03-06-2013 08:10 PM
So just to make sure i understand, an AI is not required because the additional test will not increase estrogen?
Originally Posted by jbryand101b
Is that right?
03-06-2013 08:27 PM
no, if you want to prevent test from aromatizing into estrogen (giving you more test) then you would want to use a low dosed ai. If you're worried about estrogen sides, the serm takes care of that.
Originally Posted by peter01
03-06-2013 08:29 PM
you should tell the doc to give you an ai to keep all that extra test from converting into estrogen.
Originally Posted by rayjay
03-07-2013 09:14 AM
I will know and post it Friday. I think they were low from previous cycles. I am 31 and have been taking PS/DS/AAS since about 19 on and off.
03-07-2013 10:05 AM
Very interesting. Subbed. Considering running clomid now to boost my natural test and see where it takes me. I get to 225-230lbs and put on muscle fairly easy while natural bulking but My bf will be in the high teens. I'd be happy if could run clomid and get a great test boost , run a low carb high protein diet and stick around 210-215 with a 10-12% bf. I know my test is low naturally just from the physical/mental sides i have. I'd be willing to give this a shot and log it. Ill have to save some money to afford blood tests. ive never used clomid, always nolva after a cycle so im curious as to how it differs. I was going to do a low dose test cruise thru spring and summer but if theres a possiblity i can achieve the same or close numbers naturally as I could on 250mg test e weekly then awesome
03-08-2013 04:52 AM
Mikeg.... this is what I was going for. I am getting blood work next week to check my levels. I want to up my natural test without pinning
03-08-2013 01:13 PM
Looking forward to see your results.
Originally Posted by twistedfords
03-09-2013 10:38 AM
Well, I'm intrigued by this thread. Why go with TRT if you can get your T levels up in a more natural way by running a cycle of clomid? Would a clomid-only cycle be able to induce any size gains - say 3-4 lbs? I know it's not a steroid, but if it can substantially increase T, it seems likely you could get some decent gains from it... My T levels are on the very low end of normal, so after reading this, I'm considering giving this a shot.
03-09-2013 10:40 AM
Did u get your results?
Originally Posted by liftin4fun
03-09-2013 11:47 AM
I would think if your testosterone is up then your ability to build muscle should be higher.
Originally Posted by hyperCat
03-09-2013 02:54 PM
On the issue of whether or not to also take an AI, would it stand to reason that since the clomid is only raising test a bit, and not anywhere near AAS levels, couldn't one get away with using an OTC AI? Perhaps it would be less damaging to the libido.
I think someone mentioned running the clomid with some erase. Or maybe something like 6-oxo. Still, I feel like if the idea of using clomid as a "cycle" per se would be alot more popular if its as safe and effective as it sounds on this thread.
03-09-2013 03:26 PM
Yes, I got the labs back and they are at 577 which is way better then being in the hundreds. I am now thinking about testing it at 5 weeks something like 50/50/25/25/25 then test the last day of the clomid cycle and then 2 months later to see how long they stay elevated. I don't use research as it could be just as good but I buy the pharma grade.
03-09-2013 03:42 PM
Not bad, looks to work ALOT better then any natty test booster and safer(as in less to worry about) then a AAS cycle. Could be a good tool to use during a recomp ya think? Reason I ask is I'm recomping right now. I planned on boosting my recomp by doing a 250mg a week test e cruise for a few months but it would be nicer to boost a recomp this way to where I want then run a slightly higher dose clean bulk test cycle later.
I'm halfway to where I want before I bulk. Started at 225lbs and fat January 1st, id say at least 20-25%bf after not lifting for 9 months, eating like **** and drinking lots of beer.(a couple health conditions set me back then I fell in a hole as a result)
Now I'm down to 208 and about 16-18% abs are starting to show again and love handles almost gone. 34 waist pants that wouldn't fit in December are baggy in the waist now. I've made good progress in the last two months but I want to look like last year never happened by summer so this is looking mighty tasty right now as a quick boost.
03-09-2013 03:43 PM
Ill be doing this then.... im buying like 20 bottles at ex pep. Lol
And will be running this after my bulk up cycle... this will be cool...
03-09-2013 05:38 PM
I've seen a couple of different dosing protocols. Looks like I'll be getting the 50mg tabs, but was really wanting to do 25/25/25/25/25/25. Gues I could split em, but would something like 50 eod be just as good? I know clomid has a pretty long half life (5 days or so?), so I'm thinking either dosing schedule should be ok. Thoughts?
I'm actually thinking of running a AM/AB cycle prior to this, and then rolling with the extended clomid pct...
03-10-2013 12:14 PM
How old are you? Curious because of a clomid thread on EF saying that clomid's ability to raise T will be limited as one gets older, specifically over 35.
Originally Posted by liftin4fun
03-10-2013 12:21 PM
Nevermind, I just re-read one of your earlier posts and caught your age.
03-11-2013 06:36 PM
If anyone's rats have tried clomid pills from mp, how easy are they to split?
03-11-2013 07:40 PM
They are capsules. Good luck on evenly splitting them.
Originally Posted by hyperCat
03-11-2013 07:45 PM
That fuggin' sucks - thanks for letting me know, tho. Still wondering on whether 50mg eod would work just as well given then long half-life.
Originally Posted by ITW
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