Permanent shutdown a myth?
- 02-15-2013, 08:43 PM
Permanent shutdown a myth?
Was doing some reading on this on another forum and it was interesting.
The theory was that the body can still recover even after being "on" for years at a time. The idea was that it just takes a very long time (as in possibly a year) but that the body DOES recover.
They went on to say that most people assume shutdown can be permanent because when coming off they feel like sh*t for months on end, lose all their gains, and just basically say "F it I'm never going to recover".
- 02-15-2013, 09:02 PM
Time heals all wounds right? I don't know if any studies have been done but imo I would think your body.would start to produce something even if you became permantely low
02-15-2013, 11:30 PM
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02-15-2013, 11:36 PM
02-15-2013, 11:43 PM
I know a guy that competes and has been using for years. He was my first AAS source. When I asked him for PCT drugs he was confused and didn't know what pct was. I elaborated and he was like oh yeah I've never needed it. I just come off and always been fine except after winny he says it takes longer to get his sex drive back. Guess he's lucky. I don't believe in luck so I PCT
02-15-2013, 11:48 PM
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02-16-2013, 12:27 PM
your body never completely stops producing the hormones required to stimulate testosterone production.
lh production becomes so little, the testicles become de sensitized to the effects.
whether long term desensitization is reversible with drugs like serms + hcg is another story. I'm a little fuzzy on the data, but it's out there.
02-17-2013, 05:40 PM
I used steroids for about 10 years , i did cycle them and do pct for a while but then i went on non stop for about 2-3 years. Tried pct after that and it wasnt working in the end I just went off everthing completely. Went through a rough couple of years with low test but I have recovered and have a test level over 500 now which is reasonable considering (im 33)
02-17-2013, 06:02 PM
02-17-2013, 06:48 PM
Lol yea i've been a long term lurker on here although active on other forums. Used to post on Elitefitness back in the days when it was free.
When I stopped the aas I continued to lift occasionally, but I changed my focus to martial arts and cardio. I lost a fair bit of mass/strength because of that. I'm back lifting seriously now though and weights are roughly about 25% down on what they were when I was using steroids and getting heavier each workout. My diet and training are much improved these days which helps.
02-17-2013, 07:04 PM
complete shut down is a myth, the body will not shut down 100%. Even with heavy and/or long term AAS use your production will be very low (example: .000000001). The longer you're "on" the longer it will take to recover.
02-17-2013, 07:21 PM
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