In need of some help bros!
- 12-13-2004, 08:49 PM
In need of some help bros!
Any suggestions on this cycle?
I've been gone for a while.. . and due to my schedule I haven't been able to work-out for a couple of months now... As a result, during the last 6 months I've lost nearly 40 lbs of muscle.... and check this out... my body fat is the same if not a little higher.
I wanna get back into the groove of things with the following cycle:
VPX's M1-T - 10 Mgs e/d (2 weeks on 2weeks off)
Equipoise - 300 mgs weekly
HCG - 500 iu's every third or fourth day while on cycle.
I plan to stay on this cycle for an indeffinite amount of time.
Or at least until I get back to where I wanna be.
After the first month and a half I'm gonna switch out the M1-T... any suggestions as to what I should swap it with?
- 12-13-2004, 09:40 PM
why not try getting your diet and training in proper order instead of rushing to drugs when they clearly aren't needed
- 12-13-2004, 09:48 PM
I agree with glen, but if you are going to run it anyway I really think you need to add some test. 500/week would be great. If you don't add any test then I would up the EQ to at least 400/week, perferably 500mgs/week...just my 2 ccs
12-13-2004, 10:32 PM
I am experienced at bodybuilding and I am aware of the basics of a proper diet. On the other hand my knowledge of optimal cycles is lacking.Originally Posted by glenihan
Why would you jump to conclusions and say that drugs aren't needed? If that's the case how does need drugs? No one would be the answer.
12-13-2004, 11:00 PM
no that's not true people who need drugs are people who are the brink of their natural genetic potential
i highly doubt someone who has lost a ton of muscle due to months of not working out is anywhere near their genetic potential
besides that its a horrible idea for a cycle ... running m1t indefinitely will bascially cause you to **** out your liver .. your lipid profiles will be horrible, liver values will suck, and your HDL will basically be 0
300mg of eq is way too low and you would need test in there
train right and eat right for a while first, you'll gain back the muscle quickly due to muscle memory
12-13-2004, 11:06 PM
What good is it to do a cycle to get yourself to where you already were? The weight and strength that you lost will come back fast with or without the use of drugs. If I were you I would give it 12 good weeks of training and eating correctly and see where you are. My guess is that your gains will be continuing rapidly.
Just my opinion.
12-13-2004, 11:11 PM
Originally Posted by glenihan
Thanks for the advice bro.... I believe that you're right.
I need a little extra push to get me back in the gym though...
I know it sounds like a cop-out but I hate to hear people tell me how skinny I've gotten. I need to get back to my old self pronto.
Is there anywhere that I can find out more about 'muscle memory'?
I've heard people say that once you've stacked on alot of muscle it's easier to get it back.... but I never really understood why...
And I'm not sure what you meant by saying:
'i highly doubt someone who has lost a ton of muscle due to months of not working out is anywhere near their genetic potential'
12-14-2004, 03:27 PM
I take it that noone has any further info?
12-14-2004, 03:37 PM
drop the M1T. If your going to run EQ with nothing else then run it at 600mg a week for at least 14 weeks, longer is better. test would be nice hereOriginally Posted by Blatalian
12-14-2004, 03:40 PM
Basically he's saying that just because you tend to lose abit of muscle due to inactivity, it has nothing to do with your genetic potential.. when you've trained constantly with a respectable meal plan for years, then your genetic potential is met once you no longer gain, or gains slow down..Originally Posted by Blatalian
12-14-2004, 03:46 PM
M1T for 1.5 months??? Dont' do it! That's my advice.Originally Posted by Blatalian
I'm also skeptical when I hear anyone say they're going to be on a cycle for an indefinite amount of time.
Rushing is not productive!
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