First Cycle

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  1. First Cycle


    To clarify, this thread is not about MY first cycle. I am not planning to use a PH or AAS anytime soon.

    I am curious to know about long term effects, etc. of prohormones and AAS.

    How old were you when you ran your first cycle, what compound, did you use PCT, and have you had any long term consequences from it?


  2. I was 20 used 400mg test and gained 18 lbs workin upper body only.... I was young and only wanted to work the pretty muscles.

    Pct, again was young and stupid. Didn't know what a pct was.

    Now I'm 38 just went on TRT but should have done that about 10-12years ago... Just putting it off.

    As for starting.... At some point you WILL need to be put on TRT after you start cycling. So think about that before you start. Are you really ready to pin yourself for the rest of your life? I did the math before it something like 6,000+ pins over your life time. If you start at 20 and stop at 80... That just for trt not including the times when your cycling up and can be pinning yourself 2+ x every day, depending on what your takin.


    Are you really sure your up for that?
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by usealittle View Post
    I was 20 used 400mg test and gained 18 lbs workin upper body only.... I was young and only wanted to work the pretty muscles.

    Pct, again was young and stupid. Didn't know what a pct was.

    Now I'm 38 just went on TRT but should have done that about 10-12years ago... Just putting it off.

    As for starting.... At some point you WILL need to be put on TRT after you start cycling. So think about that before you start. Are you really ready to pin yourself for the rest of your life? I did the math before it something like 6,000+ pins over your life time. If you start at 20 and stop at 80... That just for trt not including the times when your cycling up and can be pinning yourself 2+ x every day, depending on what your takin.


    Are you really sure your up for that?
    Damn that sucks. I wonder if this was due to no PCT. That's why i want to get multiple users experiences. Do you think even mild cycles are a guarantee to be on TRT later?

  4. Quote Originally Posted by AlexErdellan View Post
    Damn that sucks. I wonder if this was due to no PCT. That's why i want to get multiple users experiences. Do you think even mild cycles are a guarantee to be on TRT later?
    You are not guaranteed to be on trt with mild or even moderate cycles. The name of the game is to allow your body rest and also to make sure you regain your normal test levels after cycle. PCT is the most important part of your cycle besides keeping healthy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    Pin the kittens with the tren, then attack the judges with the kittens, uppity bastards

  5. Every time you cycle your body's natural testosterone turns off. Now every time you cycle and it turns off you PCT then it turns back on after a while it's not going to turn back on. Even with a moderate dose let's just say 500 mg of test it doesn't matter if it's 5000 or 5 g your body turns off your body doesn't know the amount you're taking it just knows that There's too much and it's supposed to turn off.

    You name me one 50-year-old man who has cycled and now is not on TRT. if he's not then he's not getting erections that's all there is to it. At 50 that should still be possible. And if it does happen they are very few and far between don't bank on the fact that you're going to be one of those few.

    Yes PCT is very important but it only will delay the inevitable.
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  6. The only real way around putting TRT off Is to do short cycles only 4 to 6 weeks max you get on you get off the body has less downtime which could help in prolonging the fact that you are going to need TRT....


    Gerbil how old are you?

  7. Lol attention anyone and everyone who has ever ingested a PH you will at some point be on trt now this needs to be a sticky
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by usealittle View Post
    The only real way around putting TRT off Is to do short cycles only 4 to 6 weeks max you get on you get off the body has less downtime which could help in prolonging the fact that you are going to need TRT....

    Gerbil how old are you?
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by usealittle View Post
    The only real way around putting TRT off Is to do short cycles only 4 to 6 weeks max you get on you get off the body has less downtime which could help in prolonging the fact that you are going to need TRT....


    Gerbil how old are you?
    25 and sexy as hell. Also college blows when you are older. Although it was once said you are only as old as the women you feel in that case I was 20 last week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    Pin the kittens with the tren, then attack the judges with the kittens, uppity bastards

  10. I started my first cycle last year and I was running supertest with winnie oral caps. Not only did it increase my strength
    but it made me feel more confident too. It was really a great cycle and for my post cycle I used nolvadex. It worked great
    and I really enjoyed the effects. No long term effects here I'm perfectly fine. No complaints at all So give it a run bro
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    Musclegauge, just curious, but what you're results from the test and winny?
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by howwedo107 View Post
    Lol attention anyone and everyone who has ever ingested a PH you will at some point be on trt now this needs to be a sticky
    Interesting lol I was curious as to how it worked because some people say you rebound right back to normal with PCT and homeostasis. Do you think this applies to Designer Steroids or even mild PH's like Forerunner Labs and LG stuff? I find it kind of hard to believe that DHEA based products could lead to TRT later in life since they are supposedly way less suppressive. Designer steroids I can understand.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by MuscleGauge1 View Post
    I started my first cycle last year and I was running supertest with winnie oral caps. Not only did it increase my strength
    but it made me feel more confident too. It was really a great cycle and for my post cycle I used nolvadex. It worked great
    and I really enjoyed the effects. No long term effects here I'm perfectly fine. No complaints at all So give it a run bro
    It's only been a year. I'm mostly looking for long term experience . I know kids that have taken halo and ultradrol at 17-19 and yeah they seem fine now, but I want to hear from people that took their first PH cycle at that age and are now in their mid 20s-30s and see if it has affected them.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by AlexErdellan View Post
    It's only been a year. I'm mostly looking for long term experience . I know kids that have taken halo and ultradrol at 17-19 and yeah they seem fine now, but I want to hear from people that took their first PH cycle at that age and are now in their mid 20s-30s and see if it has affected them.
    That data doesnt really exist PHs are newish. Until 1990 steroids were legal so the need for phs wasnt really there. Please someone correct me if I am wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    Pin the kittens with the tren, then attack the judges with the kittens, uppity bastards

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil View Post
    That data doesnt really exist PHs are newish. Until 1990 steroids were legal so the need for phs wasnt really there. Please someone correct me if I am wrong.
    I said PH's in that post but long term AAS effects as well. Havent PH's been around since like 2000?

  16. Quote Originally Posted by AlexErdellan View Post
    I meant PH's but long term AAS effects as well. Havent PH's been around since like 2000?
    A little earlier then that I believe thus those people who started at 20 would be like mid thirties.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/223429-abscent-minded-log.html
    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    Pin the kittens with the tren, then attack the judges with the kittens, uppity bastards

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil View Post
    A little earlier then that I believe thus those people who started at 20 would be like mid thirties.
    Yeah that's sufficient for me. IE if someone started at 18 in 2000 and is now 30, I want to know how they are doing. Have they had liver failure and low T like everyone claims will happen to underage PH users? Or are they doing fine? I think hearing users first hand experiences 10 years after a PH cycle would be interesting.

  18. phs are just as suppressive as aas
    many times they are more toxic

    regardless if you 'feel' fine, you did something, ontop of the fact the posters who say they 'feel fine' sound like bloods were not drawn

    i sorta agree with the trt at the end of the day thought, seeing any 18yr old who wants to run anabolics, will undoubtedly use them form here on out......i dont know many guys who cycle, getting stronger and bigger and then say 'yep thats enough for me'.......every cycle affects the hpta, the notion that poor pct leads to trt is bull****.....using hormones does have long lasting effects, be it slowly damaging the hpta, the heart, kidneys, rbc, ect

    finally op, you should be researching and not making a choice based on replies from a post of yours that demonstrates your clear lack of understanding thus the only advice with regards to you should be stay away
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexErdellan View Post

    It's only been a year. I'm mostly looking for long term experience . I know kids that have taken halo and ultradrol at 17-19 and yeah they seem fine now, but I want to hear from people that took their first PH cycle at that age and are now in their mid 20s-30s and see if it has affected them.
    There are guys out there like this - most of them are on other more advanced boards and are doing "real" steroids now. Of course there are guys that no longer take anything but they are also no longer active on the boards....

    In Europe they have used testosterone to close the growth plates of teenage boys that were growing to fast. Search for those studies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sking6464 View Post
    phs are just as suppressive as aas
    many times they are more toxic

    regardless if you 'feel' fine, you did something, ontop of the fact the posters who say they 'feel fine' sound like bloods were not drawn

    i sorta agree with the trt at the end of the day thought, seeing any 18yr old who wants to run anabolics, will undoubtedly use them form here on out......i dont know many guys who cycle, getting stronger and bigger and then say 'yep thats enough for me'.......every cycle affects the hpta, the notion that poor pct leads to trt is bull****.....using hormones does have long lasting effects, be it slowly damaging the hpta, the heart, kidneys, rbc, ect

    finally op, you should be researching and not making a choice based on replies from a post of yours that demonstrates your clear lack of understanding thus the only advice with regards to you should be stay away
    Agreed

  21. Quote Originally Posted by sking6464 View Post
    phs are just as suppressive as aas
    many times they are more toxic

    regardless if you 'feel' fine, you did something, ontop of the fact the posters who say they 'feel fine' sound like bloods were not drawn

    i sorta agree with the trt at the end of the day thought, seeing any 18yr old who wants to run anabolics, will undoubtedly use them form here on out......i dont know many guys who cycle, getting stronger and bigger and then say 'yep thats enough for me'.......every cycle affects the hpta, the notion that poor pct leads to trt is bull****.....using hormones does have long lasting effects, be it slowly damaging the hpta, the heart, kidneys, rbc, ect

    finally op, you should be researching and not making a choice based on replies from a post of yours that demonstrates your clear lack of understanding thus the only advice with regards to you should be stay away
    Do you not think I've done my research? You don't have to talk down to me. I understand PHs are just as suppressive and liver toxic. Hearing peoples personal experiences is a completely different matter than reading up on how PH's work and why not to take them. I am staying away, I honestly have no desire to take the halo XT I bought because of what I've read regarding shut down. I just bought the bottles on impulse because I know Ill probably never be able to buy Halo again due to the "ban" . I find it odd that many places are still selling it though.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by howwedo107 View Post
    Lol attention anyone and everyone who has ever ingested a PH you will at some point be on trt now this needs to be a sticky
    Seriously Bro, thanks god im allready blasting and crusing

  23. Quote Originally Posted by howwedo107 View Post

    Dude shutdown is shutdown are you kidding me?
    My point is the shorter your body is turned off the less problems could potentially have but one way or the other will end up on trt.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by AlexErdellan View Post

    It's only been a year. I'm mostly looking for long term experience . I know kids that have taken halo and ultradrol at 17-19 and yeah they seem fine now, but I want to hear from people that took their first PH cycle at that age and are now in their mid 20s-30s and see if it has affected them.
    The info you're looking for is going to be hard to find most people once they start cycling keep cycling so they would never really know when their testosterone is low. Nor do they stay off long enough to get blood samples done to see whether testosterones really at.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by usealittle View Post
    The info you're looking for is going to be hard to find most people once they start cycling keep cycling so they would never really know when their testosterone is low. Nor do they stay off long enough to get blood samples done to see whether testosterones really at.
    I dont understand people who do a cycle PCT then do a cycle like a month or two later you might as well just have stayed on and just cruise
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