- 02-07-2013, 04:44 PM
Hi all, long time lurker and reader and looking for some solid advice on Superdrol Alternatives (clones)
I've ran SD four times with great results and most recently finished a pulsed 9 week run of LGI SD-10 in Jan 2012. Kept 95% of my gains
34 5.10" 220lbs 12% BF
It's getting to be that time again and well ... we all know much of the SD clones are gone ....
So my question of the guru's here ... what is a viable SD alternative? Looking to put on some mass and lean out a bit which always happened with SD.
Was looking at M-Stane and then read here that they seemed to have changed the formula to that of ultradrol
Thanks in advance
- 02-07-2013, 04:49 PM
There is this thing called testosterone its great fun, also much nicer on the liver. Also instead of ED it can give you a higher libido. Also you can run it for longer than superdrol and gain more muscle. All in all great stuff.
- 02-07-2013, 04:51 PM
02-07-2013, 04:53 PM
02-07-2013, 05:00 PM
Libido has never been an issue for me during pulsed cycles ... add in copious amounts of DAA and various other libido enhancing supplements and I remain like an 18 yr old through out ... After watching a close friend contract MRSA from a pin and nearly die ... I'll stick with orals ... I'd like to live to enjoy my libido ...
but thanks for the wise ass remarks
other suggestions welcome
02-07-2013, 05:06 PM
02-07-2013, 05:22 PM
02-07-2013, 05:28 PM
02-07-2013, 06:34 PM
Well the most direct replacement seems to be Methylstenbolone either as Ultradrol(formerly Anteaus Labs now Elite Formulations), or IronMagLabs M-Sten RX. You could always go the DMZ route which is 2 SD molecules with an azine bond, LGI seems to be good to go for DMZ. You could also hold tight because PHF's new sister company Celtic Labs might be popping out a 7a methyl Dianabol, I believe it was a 2a Cyano Phera, and a possible prohormone to superdrol.
02-07-2013, 07:22 PM
I am kinda leaning towards DMZ ... I like LGI as a company ... reading logs now as to some possible stacking suitors
02-07-2013, 07:50 PM
02-07-2013, 09:07 PM
Sd was good when I ran it, but I think most of the clones are underdosed..i dont mess with ph's anymore, the gains to sides ratio arent worth it. Juice is better brah.
02-08-2013, 08:40 AM
For what its worth, my endo (what was a bodybuilder and trainer), claims that test only cycles have never presented long term effects for men - that the only thing to be concerned with on test cycles is gyno and that within 6 months most patients bounce back to normal function. I tend to believe it especially since you can cruise with low dose hcg as you go to prevent total shutdown. The fact the she was willing to put me on a a cruising TRT at 200-300mg/week (and I'm only 27) and was comfortable with it tells me that she was confident about her position. She did however say that the problem bodybuilders have is when they add compounds other than test to the cycle. At this point, there are no documentations that provide any conlcusions about fertility and HPTA function. For instance, no one is doing a long-term research on the effects of tren, eq, masteron, d-bol, etc etc.
02-08-2013, 11:14 AM
It's still out there, and there are many UGs that make their own. Just look around a bit more
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02-08-2013, 11:17 AM
02-08-2013, 06:08 PM
02-08-2013, 06:17 PM
I mean obviously you found one, but is it really that easy?
300mg/wk is well above a TRT dosage, so if I asked my doctor about it, do you think he'd just assume I was treating him as a drug dealer and looking for him to prescribe me steroids?
02-08-2013, 11:22 PM
There is nothing out there atm keep a eye on mr supps making beastdrol version 2.0 now they will find a way lol
02-08-2013, 11:23 PM
Orally no nothing out there atm,watch me supps they are making beastdrol v 2.0 now bet they will find a way
02-09-2013, 12:52 PM
I know of some that have given patients as much as 300mg, and in one case, 400mg/week sustained. They aren't afraid of it I suppose because they are convinced that the long term effects are all the same between 200mg and 400mg per week. I tend to believe it myself since when you run any dose whether it is TRT levels or 1000mg/week, by the time you hit week 8 or 10, you are already 100% shutdown regardless of dosage. The key is HCG, and they offer that remedy while on TRT as well.
02-09-2013, 08:16 PM
Pmag/trenazone is compareable for sure.
02-09-2013, 08:33 PM
02-09-2013, 10:16 PM
id run test but the whole gf + illegal/needle = dick cut off. and i like my dick
02-10-2013, 01:52 AM
02-10-2013, 04:08 AM
You shouldn't need trt at 27 unless you've really beat the **** out of yourself with ph/aas.
Don't even get me started on you kids running aas before age thirty with less than a decade of training under your belt. no offense to anyone here at this board but the **** I see around me is ridiculous.. People in dyel mode jumping on **** because they have no dedication or patience.
I've been training natty for eight to nine years and I see so many stupid kids these days who don't know **** about training, diet or dedication and are running hgh, test, and insulin at twenty two years old. That's ****ing stupid, think about the future of your endo system..
Any who, that being said get your training, nutrition, and rest in check.
@ OP, my friend used mdrol by cel labs. From what I saw he blew the **** up. It's a superdrol clone.
He got it off of some website the name of a river
02-10-2013, 07:20 AM
02-10-2013, 07:22 AM
02-10-2013, 07:25 AM
02-10-2013, 07:40 AM
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02-10-2013, 10:57 AM
02-10-2013, 02:10 PM
One, I deleted source, my
I'm not trying to be self righteous. I was simply trying to tell OP to get his **** right first.
If you think Bobby bicep curl who's one hundred thirty pounds and been training for barely two years and is complaining about not gaining weight because he doesn't actually put the effort into the kitchen daily should juice, you sir are very wrong.
Yes it is peoples choice, but they should at least have a BASIC UNDERSTANDING of training and nutrition before they juice, otherwise they're doing more harm than good.
I'm not trying to imply people who need trt shouldn't get it as necessary, because that's a completely different story.
it sounds like you two are but hurt-seeing as you got offended by my comment on the internet, but i'm sorry
I have nothing against gear, the majority of my friends are ON. Mark my words, many of them say they wish they wouldn't have started in their early twenties, while the endo system is still developing.
If you want to keep being juicing be my guest but when your old and your joints and hormones are all ****ed up just remember I warned you bros
02-10-2013, 02:14 PM
well it did hurt and im all out of excedrine, thanks. plus i have alot of sitting to do, ehhhh
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02-10-2013, 02:22 PM
So many times on this board young kids join asking about gear. I'm not anti gear but i'm against young untrained uninformed individuals using.
Also I edited my above post
Also if he's 34 and I missed that then I have no reason to even speak,, other than to tell him injectibles are much safer, which you guys have already done.
02-10-2013, 02:26 PM
no one is pissed off, lol.
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02-10-2013, 03:18 PM
I just have a good friend of mine who went the same route I was speaking of and because his training and everything isn't spot on he always losses his gains after cycle, even with pct, all he managed to do was damage his liver.
Just didn't want you bros to go that same route
02-10-2013, 03:56 PM
Rest assured ... although I have not been an active poster here ... I am not a rookie. While I understand that many feel injectibles are safer for THEM ... in my circumstance and work environment they simply are not, (as my friend I previously referenced found out the hard way) So i mitigate the sides and harm of a cycle by choosing to run pulsed cycles.
No worries ... my diet and training are spot on to the goals I seek. PCT is also to a T and my everday staple supplements rarely vary unless their is a change in training or goals. As I said ... my past 2 pulses I had little to no sides ... no shutdown ... and kept 90-95 % of my gains ... Post cycle I keep at it and keep my daily supps and diet on point, which is where I credit the keeping of results. I am very disciplined. I also have the ability to get weekly blood work done so I can monitor that aspect.
It looks like I am going to be running ProStanivar along with trenazone on pulsed off days. Anyone not using DAA while on an oral cycle is missing out ... I up to 15 grams a day and am like an 18 yr old even though I am on cycle ... I normally run 5 gm/day while off. I respond well and it reall helps keep the shut down at a distance.
I had a few PM's askign about my supps diet and pulsing ... so here goes
My daily supps consist of:
H Goat Weed
On cycle the basics remain ... I up the DAA and Beta Alanine and Flax, drop the AAKG and add in:
PCT I continue to run all supps and add in:
DAA also continues at around 15 gm/day
As for Diet ... All I eat are all natual meat fish protein sources, canned tuna drained and rinsed of sodium, eggs/whites, and fruit's /vegetables. I carb cycle while off cycle so my only carb sources on low carb days are fruits veggies and dairy .... on load days it's steel cut oats, brown rice, yams, or whole wheat pasta in addition to fruits veggies and dairy MY diet is pretty boring to most but effective for me. While ON I usually aim for 300 - 400 carbs a day depending on what my body is saying and looking like. I take advantage of being anabolic while on usually doing cardio 6 mornings a week mostly HIIT. I hit the weights 4-5 nights while on then once into PCT cut back to 3 over the course of 3 weeks to avoid injury and burn out. Cardio also returns to the normal 4-5 morning a week. I always split cardio am and weights pm.
02-10-2013, 07:35 PM
02-12-2013, 09:57 AM
15g of DAA? How did you determine this dose?
02-12-2013, 11:07 AM
02-12-2013, 01:15 PM
I don't believe 15g of daa is safe or necessary.. Coop said somewhere it is excitotoxic
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