- 02-10-2013, 04:10 PM
One, I deleted source, my
I'm not trying to be self righteous. I was simply trying to tell OP to get his **** right first.
If you think Bobby bicep curl who's one hundred thirty pounds and been training for barely two years and is complaining about not gaining weight because he doesn't actually put the effort into the kitchen daily should juice, you sir are very wrong.
Yes it is peoples choice, but they should at least have a BASIC UNDERSTANDING of training and nutrition before they juice, otherwise they're doing more harm than good.
I'm not trying to imply people who need trt shouldn't get it as necessary, because that's a completely different story.
it sounds like you two are but hurt-seeing as you got offended by my comment on the internet, but i'm sorry
I have nothing against gear, the majority of my friends are ON. Mark my words, many of them say they wish they wouldn't have started in their early twenties, while the endo system is still developing.
If you want to keep being juicing be my guest but when your old and your joints and hormones are all ****ed up just remember I warned you bros
- 02-10-2013, 04:14 PM
02-10-2013, 04:22 PM
So many times on this board young kids join asking about gear. I'm not anti gear but i'm against young untrained uninformed individuals using.
Also I edited my above post
Also if he's 34 and I missed that then I have no reason to even speak,, other than to tell him injectibles are much safer, which you guys have already done.
02-10-2013, 04:26 PM
02-10-2013, 05:18 PM
I just have a good friend of mine who went the same route I was speaking of and because his training and everything isn't spot on he always losses his gains after cycle, even with pct, all he managed to do was damage his liver.
Just didn't want you bros to go that same route
02-10-2013, 05:56 PM
Rest assured ... although I have not been an active poster here ... I am not a rookie. While I understand that many feel injectibles are safer for THEM ... in my circumstance and work environment they simply are not, (as my friend I previously referenced found out the hard way) So i mitigate the sides and harm of a cycle by choosing to run pulsed cycles.
No worries ... my diet and training are spot on to the goals I seek. PCT is also to a T and my everday staple supplements rarely vary unless their is a change in training or goals. As I said ... my past 2 pulses I had little to no sides ... no shutdown ... and kept 90-95 % of my gains ... Post cycle I keep at it and keep my daily supps and diet on point, which is where I credit the keeping of results. I am very disciplined. I also have the ability to get weekly blood work done so I can monitor that aspect.
It looks like I am going to be running ProStanivar along with trenazone on pulsed off days. Anyone not using DAA while on an oral cycle is missing out ... I up to 15 grams a day and am like an 18 yr old even though I am on cycle ... I normally run 5 gm/day while off. I respond well and it reall helps keep the shut down at a distance.
I had a few PM's askign about my supps diet and pulsing ... so here goes
My daily supps consist of:
H Goat Weed
On cycle the basics remain ... I up the DAA and Beta Alanine and Flax, drop the AAKG and add in:
PCT I continue to run all supps and add in:
DAA also continues at around 15 gm/day
As for Diet ... All I eat are all natual meat fish protein sources, canned tuna drained and rinsed of sodium, eggs/whites, and fruit's /vegetables. I carb cycle while off cycle so my only carb sources on low carb days are fruits veggies and dairy .... on load days it's steel cut oats, brown rice, yams, or whole wheat pasta in addition to fruits veggies and dairy MY diet is pretty boring to most but effective for me. While ON I usually aim for 300 - 400 carbs a day depending on what my body is saying and looking like. I take advantage of being anabolic while on usually doing cardio 6 mornings a week mostly HIIT. I hit the weights 4-5 nights while on then once into PCT cut back to 3 over the course of 3 weeks to avoid injury and burn out. Cardio also returns to the normal 4-5 morning a week. I always split cardio am and weights pm.
02-10-2013, 09:35 PM
02-12-2013, 11:57 AM
02-12-2013, 01:07 PM
02-12-2013, 03:15 PM
02-12-2013, 04:12 PM
02-13-2013, 04:39 AM
I use 15g while on cycle bc the Ms's gets cranky when she doesn't get her 3 or 4 doses of love daily so yes ... kinda trial and error to maintain the aggression levels and also verified in the weekly weekly labs ... It also really fuels some killer workouts nothing ridiculous abt it at all ... It works for my body and I listen ...
thanks for your insightful feed, hvac
and again my weekly labs show zeros issues ... while there have been studies that show long term over stimulation of the NMDA receptor can be exitotoxic there is also research that shows Dopamine protects against the exititoxicity ... hence the incusion of L-dopa in my daily supplement cocktail (in addition to its mood and sexually affects)
Ohhh and ummm the body also gets a nice flood of Dopamine after sexual activity and a good workout ... so one hand washes the other and its a wash as to the exitotoxicity. Also the use of alcar and my diet being high in antioxidant foods help reduce free radicals which also increases dopamine availability bc it isn't oxidized. SO for a guy who uses DAA while eating like **** and playing video games with his bros 24/7 instead of getting laid ... yah ... he might have issues of ridiculousness at 15g ... I use both while off cycle too, just not nearly as high a dose ... it has awesome all around benefits for me
02-13-2013, 02:03 PM
02-13-2013, 02:18 PM
02-13-2013, 02:20 PM
02-13-2013, 03:21 PM
Damn bro that's my point is you could have done that naturally with ease.. And avoided all that liver toxicity. And if someone here says a methylated oral sd is liver safe then I'm just ****ing done trying to help
02-13-2013, 03:39 PM
TRENAZONE AND TEST-C LOG PLUS TRIPTORELIN PCT AND BLOODWORK
Keep in mind this was a few years ago. I'm so ashamed of how I looked then, lol. SO much better shape now.
02-13-2013, 03:48 PM
02-13-2013, 07:14 PM
02-13-2013, 07:15 PM
02-13-2013, 07:22 PM
02-13-2013, 07:25 PM
Train hard, be proud. Walk with your head up, show no fear.
02-13-2013, 07:37 PM
02-13-2013, 07:38 PM
02-13-2013, 07:39 PM
02-13-2013, 07:42 PM
02-13-2013, 07:43 PM
02-13-2013, 07:56 PM
02-13-2013, 08:02 PM
Also start training your back 2 x weekly. If you only go three days that's enough.
And if you want more info I'll gladly help you get results, so you don't have to turn to hormones again.
02-13-2013, 08:04 PM
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