Help arranging these five orals by DHT proliferation...

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by AwhYeah View Post
    Internet rage!
    yes, this is me typing angrily, can you feel the anger in every key punched!!! bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


  2. Thanks everyone, pills are a go. Just needed a brush up on some of the nomenclature you might say - it's almost like working 70 hours a week for the last year has affected me somehow, nah!
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  3. Someone help me! I'm being totally owned by muscular mountains of awesomeness in all their teeny-bopper one-direction physique glory! HAHA, classic, I love forums, nothing like some good old comedy to make my days better, because other wise my life with my six-figure income and ACTUAL competitive bodybuilding trophies would just make me wanna slit my wrists. Whew, close call. I'll go hide in a corner and sob silently for a few hours Good luck with the aids, you writhing in feces ***got.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by gavinprice9 View Post
    Lowest Androgenic Effect
    Hdrol
    Superdrol
    Trenazone
    11 oxo
    Tbol

    All Of these i can take and have NO hairloss at all, Im very easily effect by hairloss with PH's

    Effected my Hairline

    Ultradrol
    Dbol
    Beware of 11-Oxo.
    "HenryV" wrote this:
    "11-oxo is one of the few PHs that undergoes 5a-reduction".
    "5-AR, which converts test to DHT and test-like compounds to DHT-like compounds. Where the products are stronger androgens than the original compounds that means that those steroids are often bad for the hair, since they are converted to the stronger androgens in places with lots of 5-AR. Those places are also DHT-sensitive tissues like the prostate and scalp.
    The real question with this compound is how androgenic are the 5a-reduced metabolites. I dunno the answer. Worth noting perhaps that this is one of the only PHs that something like finasteride could be run alongside to reduce androgenic effects, not that I am recommending it".

  5. thats no reason to be weary of 11-oxo.

    becoming 5a reduced isn't going to make it that much pore of a potent androgen.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    thats no reason to be weary of 11-oxo.

    becoming 5a reduced isn't going to make it that much pore of a potent androgen.
    I'm very prone to hair loss, ive run 11-oxo many times very high and no extra hair loss at all

  7. Quote Originally Posted by jaydollars View Post
    I'm very prone to hair loss, ive run 11-oxo many times very high and no extra hair loss at all
    11-keto-test is a "fish androgen", and I was gonna say, I dont see any fish with hair on their chest, but then thought, I dont see any fish with hair on their heads either. lol.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post

    11-keto-test is a "fish androgen", and I was gonna say, I dont see any fish with hair on their chest, but then thought, I dont see any fish with hair on their heads either. lol.
    But how many fish do you really see anyway?

  9. Quote Originally Posted by threeFs View Post

    But how many fish do you really see anyway?
    Hahaha.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by threeFs View Post
    But how many fish do you really see anyway?
    see sally sell sea shells down by the sea shore...

  11. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    With that said, tbol would be the least androgenic, with a rating of zero in Vida. The best for females, which is originally who it was designed for, female athletes.
    It has an androgenic rating of "-" in Vida, not "0" - indicating that the androgenic properties of the steroid weren't measured in the paper he took the figures from. I don't think it was designed for female athletes, just given to them.

  12. Oral-Turinabol, the androgenic-anabolic steroid produced by the state-owned pharmaceutical company, VEB Jenapharm (Jena,
    Thuringia, GDR), was the compound most frequently used.
    This steroid, a chlor-substituted version of methandrostenolone, had been introduced for clinical use in 1965; by 1966, it was already being abused and administered to male athletes in the GDR sports system to enhance muscle strength, aggressiveness, and performance.
    In their preparations for the Olympic Games of 1968, however, GDR officials crossed another ethical barrier and administered androgenic hormones to female athletes.
    Clinical Chemistry 43:7 12621279 (1997)

  13. Quote Originally Posted by henryv View Post
    It has an androgenic rating of "-" in Vida, not "0" - indicating that the androgenic properties of the steroid weren't measured in the paper he took the figures from. I don't think it was designed for female athletes, just given to them.
    thank you for the correction.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    thank you for the correction.
    http://www.clinchem.org/content/43/7/1262.full.pdf

    It's a good read.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by henryv View Post
    hah, if anyone has any remaining doubts that there are clean elite level athletes, this paper should remove them.

  16. hey outstanding how u been!!!!
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