Help arranging these five orals by DHT proliferation...

[jbryand101b]

superdrol didnt really effect my hairline at all bro. and im fairly prone to hairloss. also i have been using nazerol shampoo for years and i heard it helps.

thats because it's androgenic effects are pretty weak sauce. esp when compared to it's anabolic effect.

[jbryand101b]

Fellas, please help me listing these five compounds from least to most severe when it comes to DHT circulation/proliferation:

-Anavar
-Turinabol
-Winstrol
-Superdrol
-M1T

I would assume Superdrol, being methyl-DHT basically, would be the obvious worse-culprit in the arena of DHT, and Anavar the most benign/harmless followed closely by T-bol?

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[jbryand101b]

Lowest Androgenic Effect
Hdrol
Superdrol
Trenazone
11 oxo
Tbol

All Of these i can take and have NO hairloss at all, Im very easily effect by hairloss with PH's

Effected my Hairline

Ultradrol
Dbol

you cant put hdrol at the top, then tbol at the bottom. 11-oxo, is a very weak androgen, dienolone is the most potent androgen of them all.

[jbryand101b]

With that said, tbol would be the least androgenic, with a rating of zero in Vida. The best for females, which is originally who it was designed for, female athletes.
M1t is the biggest. (most androgenic effect, to the least, biggest being the key word)
Winni,
Anavar
Superdrol,

Tbol is a derivative of testosterone, not dht though, so it doesn't belong with the others.

people say, "jbry, why are so mean to the newbs, and not contribute anything useful?"

because, when I do take the time to answer a question, it gets ignored, and it pisses me off. even when I was a newb, you didn't see me running around the forums asking people to spoon feed me.

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[jbryand101b]

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[mattias]

Lowest Androgenic Effect
Hdrol
Superdrol
Trenazone
11 oxo
Tbol

All Of these i can take and have NO hairloss at all, Im very easily effect by hairloss with PH's

Effected my Hairline

Ultradrol
Dbol

Beware of 11-Oxo.
"HenryV" wrote this:
"11-oxo is one of the few PHs that undergoes 5a-reduction".
"5-AR, which converts test to DHT and test-like compounds to DHT-like compounds. Where the products are stronger androgens than the original compounds that means that those steroids are often bad for the hair, since they are converted to the stronger androgens in places with lots of 5-AR. Those places are also DHT-sensitive tissues like the prostate and scalp.
The real question with this compound is how androgenic are the 5a-reduced metabolites. I dunno the answer. Worth noting perhaps that this is one of the only PHs that something like finasteride could be run alongside to reduce androgenic effects, not that I am recommending it".

[jbryand101b]

thats no reason to be weary of 11-oxo.

becoming 5a reduced isn't going to make it that much pore of a potent androgen.

[jaydollars]

thats no reason to be weary of 11-oxo.

becoming 5a reduced isn't going to make it that much pore of a potent androgen.

I'm very prone to hair loss, ive run 11-oxo many times very high and no extra hair loss at all

[jbryand101b]

I'm very prone to hair loss, ive run 11-oxo many times very high and no extra hair loss at all

11-keto-test is a "fish androgen", and I was gonna say, I dont see any fish with hair on their chest, but then thought, I dont see any fish with hair on their heads either. lol.

[threeFs]

11-keto-test is a "fish androgen", and I was gonna say, I dont see any fish with hair on their chest, but then thought, I dont see any fish with hair on their heads either. lol.

But how many fish do you really see anyway?

[murk01]

But how many fish do you really see anyway?

Hahaha.

[jbryand101b]

But how many fish do you really see anyway?

see sally sell sea shells down by the sea shore...

[henryv]

With that said, tbol would be the least androgenic, with a rating of zero in Vida. The best for females, which is originally who it was designed for, female athletes.

It has an androgenic rating of "-" in Vida, not "0" - indicating that the androgenic properties of the steroid weren't measured in the paper he took the figures from. I don't think it was designed for female athletes, just given to them.

[henryv]

Oral-Turinabol, the androgenic-anabolic steroid produced by the state-owned pharmaceutical company, VEB Jenapharm (Jena,
Thuringia, GDR), was the compound most frequently used.
This steroid, a chlor-substituted version of methandrostenolone, had been introduced for clinical use in 1965; by 1966, it was already being abused and administered to male athletes in the GDR sports system to enhance muscle strength, aggressiveness, and performance.
In their preparations for the Olympic Games of 1968, however, GDR officials crossed another ethical barrier and administered androgenic hormones to female athletes.

Clinical Chemistry 43:7 1262–1279 (1997)

[jbryand101b]

It has an androgenic rating of "-" in Vida, not "0" - indicating that the androgenic properties of the steroid weren't measured in the paper he took the figures from. I don't think it was designed for female athletes, just given to them.

thank you for the correction.

[henryv]

thank you for the correction.

http://www.clinchem.org/content/43/7/1262.full.pdf

It's a good read.

[jbryand101b]

http://www.clinchem.org/content/43/7/1262.full.pdf

It's a good read.

hah, if anyone has any remaining doubts that there are clean elite level athletes, this paper should remove them.