because, when I do take the time to answer a question, it gets ignored, and it pisses me off. even when I was a newb, you didn't see me running around the forums asking people to spoon feed me.
Thanks everyone, pills are a go. Just needed a brush up on some of the nomenclature you might say - it's almost like working 70 hours a week for the last year has affected me somehow, nah!
Someone help me! I'm being totally owned by muscular mountains of awesomeness in all their teeny-bopper one-direction physique glory! HAHA, classic, I love forums, nothing like some good old comedy to make my days better, because other wise my life with my six-figure income and ACTUAL competitive bodybuilding trophies would just make me wanna slit my wrists. Whew, close call. I'll go hide in a corner and sob silently for a few hours Good luck with the aids, you writhing in feces ***got.
"HenryV" wrote this:
"11-oxo is one of the few PHs that undergoes 5a-reduction".
"5-AR, which converts test to DHT and test-like compounds to DHT-like compounds. Where the products are stronger androgens than the original compounds that means that those steroids are often bad for the hair, since they are converted to the stronger androgens in places with lots of 5-AR. Those places are also DHT-sensitive tissues like the prostate and scalp.
The real question with this compound is how androgenic are the 5a-reduced metabolites. I dunno the answer. Worth noting perhaps that this is one of the only PHs that something like finasteride could be run alongside to reduce androgenic effects, not that I am recommending it".
thats no reason to be weary of 11-oxo.
becoming 5a reduced isn't going to make it that much pore of a potent androgen.
Clinical Chemistry 43:7 1262–1279 (1997)Oral-Turinabol, the androgenic-anabolic steroid produced by the state-owned pharmaceutical company, VEB Jenapharm (Jena,
Thuringia, GDR), was the compound most frequently used.
This steroid, a chlor-substituted version of methandrostenolone, had been introduced for clinical use in 1965; by 1966, it was already being abused and administered to male athletes in the GDR sports system to enhance muscle strength, aggressiveness, and performance.
In their preparations for the Olympic Games of 1968, however, GDR officials crossed another ethical barrier and administered androgenic hormones to female athletes.
It's a good read.