Question for those who cruise.
- 02-02-2013, 04:39 PM
Question for those who cruise.
When you make the decision to cruise, is it a safe assumption you will HAVE to be on TRT, whenever you do decide to come off the "gear"?
Could you cruise for a few years, come off, and ever hope to recover on your own?
The idea of cruising intrigues me, but I see it as a major decision as it basically means being dependent on drugs and injections indefinitely.
Thoughts? - 02-02-2013, 04:42 PM
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- 02-02-2013, 04:54 PM
Also, my first experience with test will be in about a month when I do a 12 week cycle.
I'll be coming off, doing the whole PCT thing, and see how much I can actually retain.
Only thing is I may or may not want to get into competing some day, and I feel that to be successful cruising is basically mandatory. - 02-02-2013, 04:56 PM
Once you go into truly competing you go quite a bit farther than just cruising you are also probably going to have to go the route of slin and hgh. At a high level of bodybuilding you would be amazed at how much pinning they are doing.
- 02-02-2013, 05:00 PM
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- 02-02-2013, 05:04 PM
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- 02-02-2013, 05:11 PM
Just start off with a test and either an oral or test p kickstart. After that see how you progressed and look into what more you want to get. If you need any help planning out the test cycle let me know. Most of the guys I know who have their pro cards are on hgh year round.
That first test cycle should give you are really good base to spring off of. You are already rather lean you just need mass. I am pretty sure I dont have to go over diet with you which is 100x better than 90% of the people who want to start test. - 02-02-2013, 05:12 PM
- 02-02-2013, 05:16 PM
Thanks man. I'm gonna see what I can get out of this cycle and I'll go from there.
Also, I don't consider myself an expert on dieting; it's just that I never seem to gain much fat. Currently on 5000 calories with a ton of carbs and even then the weight gain is very slow going.
I have never in my life done or considered a cut, lol. I hope the test cycle puts me near 200. I would love to finally do a cut, maybe walk around 185 @ 8%. - 02-02-2013, 08:37 PM
- 02-02-2013, 09:34 PM
- 02-02-2013, 09:39 PM
TBH if one is going to use gear i have no clue why you would PCT, I mean gear makes you feel AMAZING, did i say AMAZING!!
- 02-02-2013, 09:50 PM
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- 02-02-2013, 10:16 PM
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- 02-02-2013, 10:35 PM
Triptorelin is a GnRH Agonist basically if only used once it will kick start your LH/FSH function if used for extended periods of time it will destroy your LH/FSH production the best metaphor I can think of for that would be the candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long what it does is burn out your pituitary well this stuff runs on that concept but goes the candle that burns 400x as bright method.
The only kind of pct for trt I can really think of would be.
Running HCG/HMG to revive your testes, Then one blast of Triptorelin (the stuff I was referring to), then a long and steady clomid intake.
I will get you the research papers that support my theory once I get back from the gym. Note it will be all of their effects on their own not them together. - 02-03-2013, 12:32 AM
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10969915 we are concerned about the paradoxical results.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16422830 for the clomid
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3099447 for the hcg/hmg (looking for a better article with higher group of patients
I will keep you posted on if I find anymore articles which will happen soon when I have more time. - 02-03-2013, 03:01 AM
So it's like a shot of adrenalin to your nuts (to put it simple an blunt) or a jump start? A one dose deal then follow through with pct? Sorry to try and re word things , I understand basically but have to put things a certain way in order to fully file it away in my noodle
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