First test cycle, can't decide on dosage.

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I've ran designers like SD, but never test.

Well it's almost time for a 12 week cycle, and I'm still trying to decide on what dosage I should use for my first time.

I'm trying to decide between 3, 4, or 500mg/wk.

Should I just break down and go with 500?

Planning on using formeron on cycle.
 
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500. provided estrogen sides don't get too out of hand.
 
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It will be test cyp, and kicking off with a designer oral.

I'm pretty lean, so while that doesn't mean estrogen can't creep up on me, I don't see it becoming a huge issue.

Also I have prop, but I'd rather just pin 2x a week and kick off with the oral.
 
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It will be test cyp, and kicking off with a designer oral.

I'm pretty lean, so while that doesn't mean estrogen can't creep up on me, I don't see it becoming a huge issue.

Also I have prop, but I'd rather just pin 2x a week and kick off with the oral.
What are your stats?

I've seen 400/week yield gains too. Not saying 500 is bad or too much even just looking at it from a cost v. benefit

Don't quote me but I believe a regular male has natural levels equivalent to the 100mg/week so anything will benefit.
 
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What are your stats?

I've seen 400/week yield gains too. Not saying 500 is bad or too much even just looking at it from a cost v. benefit

Don't quote me but I believe a regular male has natural levels equivalent to the 100mg/week so anything will benefit.
lol I heard 75mg/wk for a REALLY healthy male.

I may do 400, then bump to 500 in the final weeks. We'll see.
 

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lol I heard 75mg/wk for a REALLY healthy male.

I may do 400, then bump to 500 in the final weeks. We'll see.
6-7mg a day on average according to several endos I've been to for a healthy 30yo. So figure about 45-50mg a week at that age and adjust up or down depending on age. Most guys can see small gains on as little as 100mg wk with proper diet.
 
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lol I heard 75mg/wk for a REALLY healthy male.

I may do 400, then bump to 500 in the final weeks. We'll see.
There is no point in ramping up test. If you want more then run more if you want less then run less. I say 500mg is the perfect starting point.
 
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There is no point in ramping up test. If you want more then run more if you want less then run less. I say 500mg is the perfect starting point.
Yeah I'm pretty much set on 500mg at this point.
 
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You planning on doing a log or anything? I'm in the process of planning my first test cycle and what I have lined out looks a bit similar to yours. Mine is still a ways off cause I know I can still make decent gains without it but I'd like to give it a go in the next year or so. Curious to see how this cycle treats you. Best of luck.
 
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You planning on doing a log or anything? I'm in the process of planning my first test cycle and what I have lined out looks a bit similar to yours. Mine is still a ways off cause I know I can still make decent gains without it but I'd like to give it a go in the next year or so. Curious to see how this cycle treats you. Best of luck.
My cycle is about a month away right now.

I'm not gonna do a day by day log, but I'll probably make a thread here and update it weekly.
 
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Dont listen to these bro's you wanna be huge right!! freaking a gram bro
 
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Dont listen to these bro's you wanna be huge right!! freaking a gram bro
Sadly I know someone who cruises on a gram. He looks like the Hulk's little brother, if he could just get his proportions right he would be great but he needs a lot of work on that.
 
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cruise on a gram holly **** how small his balls lmao a FREAKING gram
 
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cruise on a gram holly **** how small his balls lmao a FREAKING gram
He is 6'4" and he makes me look like a midget. He is also apparently capable of pinning 3ml in his delts, which is a bit horrifying.
 
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ive doen 3ml in my delt not fun lol coundlt move shoulder whole night
 
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cruise on a gram holly **** how small his balls lmao a FREAKING gram
This is just a question.

Wouldn't you still get completely shut down on 200mg/wk, since that's still over 3x what the body can naturally produce?
 
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My cycle is about a month away right now.

I'm not gonna do a day by day log, but I'll probably make a thread here and update it weekly.
Awesome, I'll make sure to keep an eye out.
 
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This is just a question.

Wouldn't you still get completely shut down on 200mg/wk, since that's still over 3x what the body can naturally produce?
Yeah but he didn't start crusing on a gram he worked up so he must b in gear a real long time
 
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Yeah but he didn't start crusing on a gram he worked up so he must b in gear a real long time
I am currently on 600mg of test a week and I cant even imagine what cruising on a gram would feel like.
 

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This is just a question.

Wouldn't you still get completely shut down on 200mg/wk, since that's still over 3x what the body can naturally produce?
yes and no. Basically if you keep your total testosterone under 1000 it will take a while to get shut down and you need to keep your estrogen low, once it jumps up the body puts the breaks on right the way.
 
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Sadly I know someone who cruises on a gram. He looks like the Hulk's little brother, if he could just get his proportions right he would be great but he needs a lot of work on that.
What does he blast with if he cruises on a gram?
 
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What does he blast with if he cruises on a gram?
He blasts 1.5g and eq and deca. Tren/winny/mast before comp. I never got the doses of anything besides his test.
 

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