Bro science or no science?

[dazzvxr]

Is there any back to back comparisons or any scientific evidence that estrogen is needed to build muscle? Has anybody run a cycle with no ai and then the same cycle with an ai with any major differences in lbm at the end of pct? (Not water weight that just drops off, just clean gains you were left with)

 

[OnionKnight]

total bro science bro! it actually originated from bb.com

im jk looky here
http://jme.endocrinology-journals.org/content/45/1/45.full
http://www.ismc.dk/pages/_709698B80BB8B814C125742B00574EA0/$file/Mette%20Hansen%20PhD%20thesis.pdf

theres more but im too lazy to copy paste a billion studies on an ipad

 

[BigShadow]

Is there any back to back comparisons or any scientific evidence that estrogen is needed to build muscle? Has anybody run a cycle with no ai and then the same cycle with an ai with any major differences in lbm at the end of pct? (Not water weight that just drops off, just clean gains you were left with)

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroids-bodybuilding-articles/391-aromatizable-androgens-anabolism-role-estrogen-muscle-growth.html

William Llewellyn explains it here

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[dazzvxr]

So on that note... Me being prone to gyno... Would 0.5mg of letro eod or 0.6mg e3d completely shut down estrogen?

 

[sieusc]

any personal experiences on this topic?

 

[dazzvxr]

any personal experiences on this topic?

Good question!

 

[jbryand101b]

either it's a coincidence that another thread was made asking pretty much the same question (that I answered) or op saw such thread, thought I'm full of shiit, and decided to make another one?

 

[jbryand101b]

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/222629-there-any-reason.html

 

[dazzvxr]

either it's a coincidence that another thread was made asking pretty much the same question (that I answered) or op saw such thread, thought I'm full of shiit, and decided to make another one?

Yeah I saw your reply and thought, this guys talking bubbles!! oO ooO
Haha joking a side iv just read your reply to that thread, do you think the doses of letro I mentioned above would be too much for my cycle? I'm running test e at 500mg a week

 

[heebs10]

So on that note... Me being prone to gyno... Would 0.5mg of letro eod or 0.6mg e3d completely shut down estrogen?

i would much rather have to little estro than to much. but i doubt 0.5mg eod would crush your estrogen, cant say for certain though. but everyone is different. some people have said that 0.25mg was enough to reverse gyno, while others need 2.5 so it can vary quite a bit.

 

[dazzvxr]

i would much rather have to little estro than to much. but i doubt 0.5mg eod would crush your estrogen, cant say for certain though. but everyone is different. some people have said that 0.25mg was enough to reverse gyno, while others need 2.5 so it can vary quite a bit.

Thanks for the reply, going to try going e3d as iv read that the half life is 4 days and if any symptoms appear back to eod, only in week 3 of my cycle so want to make sure I'm not over doing it... Even though iv read thread after thread! I won't be happy with dosing until the gains start

 

[figdaddy]

I've used letro on cycle. It doesn't hinder gains whatsoever unless ur shooting for water weight...it'll actually keep u drier and leaner

 

[dazzvxr]

I've used letro on cycle. It doesn't hinder gains whatsoever unless ur shooting for water weight...it'll actually keep u drier and leaner

Nice to finally come across someone with first hand experience, how many mg was you using per week?

 

[figdaddy]

1.25 EOD. Kept me pretty damn dry. Ended up shrinking my pre existing gyno too. Libido was through the roof and i had no issue w joints. Everyone reacts differently. I know people who cant be on letro for more than a week due to sides.