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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick
    The only true PH I am aware of are DHEA products.

    Everything else is DS (designer steroids) which is AAS and using them for a natural competition is cheating. You're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.
    Agreed...people who say prohormones aren't steroids are foolish in their "knowledge" most are active forms of the compound,or convert to the steroid after the compound passes through the liver...plain and simple you aren't natty once you have taken a cycle of "prohormones" so it's cheating end of story...for the guys who pass the drug test for natty comps who have cycled are cowards,

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    And don't kid yourself if you think a PH wouldn't be cheating, you are taking exogenous hormones to increase your chances of winning; which is cheating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uvawahoowa View Post

    Are you talking about entering in the NPC or competing in a natural organization?
    Well I was going to compete in a Natural NPC competition but they only have body building and I wanna do Physique.. so that changes everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rharvley View Post
    NPC doesn't test lol. Or they wouldn't push monsters to IFBB lmao

    Pro hormones aren't steroids. It's a gray area for "cheating" as you get older your body doesn't have the capabilities to grow anymore. PH is safe if you do the right ones. You will know in the first 3 days if you should keep taking them or not. A good one is double drol. Google it.

    But if u just wanna bump ur test, and get the right stack without PH check out my link below for cellucor supplements using my last name gives u 20% off.

    Just don't stick a needle in u bro. Add lean calories and u will be fine. Pick a show further than 2 months to do as well.

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    Yeah the NPC physique show is in 3 1/2 months. And yes I do need to get my dieting and meal plans on point. I hope with the meal plan I will gain that kind of weight. I would love to be 190lbs and yeah I'm defined and have 11% body fast. Weighing 170 I know if I gained weight and then cut I'd look that much better. Thanks for the advice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rharvley View Post
    NPC doesn't test lol. Or they wouldn't push monsters to IFBB lmao

    Pro hormones aren't steroids. It's a gray area for "cheating" as you get older your body doesn't have the capabilities to grow anymore. PH is safe if you do the right ones. You will know in the first 3 days if you should keep taking them or not. A good one is double drol. Google it.

    But if u just wanna bump ur test, and get the right stack without PH check out my link below for cellucor supplements using my last name gives u 20% off.

    Just don't stick a needle in u bro. Add lean calories and u will be fine. Pick a show further than 2 months to do as well.

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    And how long would this dude run double drol?
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    I asked because it's SD and HD stacked. Just wondering what his recommendation would be since HD is normally run a couple of weeks longer than SD and they're both methyls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snickes16 View Post

    Well I was going to compete in a Natural NPC competition but they only have body building and I wanna do Physique.. so that changes everything.
    Well NPC is not natural and they don't test so you would be fine, though the competitors use a lot more than PHs that's for sure. So if you aren't using some form of aas I wouldn't even bother

    And NPC does have physique divisions now as well.
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    What is AAS? lol sorry idk any of this stuff
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snickes16 View Post
    What is AAS? lol sorry idk any of this stuff
    Anabolic androgenic steroids
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    Don't know wht AAS means good reason to not get involved
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    Quote Originally Posted by Borispili View Post
    Don't know wht AAS means good reason to not get involved
    But he knows what PH means and that's what he was asking about in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iparatroop View Post

    But he knows what PH means and that's what he was asking about in the first place.
    lol Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iparatroop View Post

    But he knows what PH means and that's what he was asking about in the first place.
    Well he was actually asking about DS (designer steroid) which is actually just grey area AAS.
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    Get some double taco drol and load it in a linear fashion and you ll be awesome
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